Allyson Felix mile time trial?

yep... it was 4:55

Hmm. Wonder if she's trying to build some 800 strength. I'd love to see what she can do in that distance.

Id like to see that 800 too!

This is what sprinters call a warmup?

looks like a 6:00.

like a gazelle wrote:

Hmm. Wonder if she's trying to build some 800 strength. I'd love to see what she can do in that distance.

A few years back she ran a meet at USC and ran around a 2:18

CorpulentCruiser wrote:

My feed has a picture of her running and the caption says it's a mile time trial. Anyone know how what her time was?

That's interesting, sprinters usually only do an 800m time trial.

l.a. track nut wrote:

yep... it was 4:55

link please?

l.a. track nut wrote:

yep... it was 4:55

Why? Do the sprinters at A&M do 800 TT's? Does Bolt do an 800 TT? I've never heard of Darvis Patton running a 800 TT.

Just wondering why a sprinter would run a 800 TT? I can see a 400 guy having some potential, but usually, a 600 TT can tell you a lot.

Stingo Rarr wrote:

Why? Do the sprinters at A&M do 800 TT's? Does Bolt do an 800 TT? I've never heard of Darvis Patton running a 800 TT.

Just wondering why a sprinter would run a 800 TT? I can see a 400 guy having some potential, but usually, a 600 TT can tell you a lot.

It is not really a TT, it is more like a fitness gauge before you start technique and event specific training. Marion Jones would run a 2:07 or 2:08 in early March and Sanya Richards would run about 2:05 or 2:06.

I remember when Florence Griffith Joyner claimed to start every workout with a 1:47 800. I saw/heard it on TV and I was shocked that if they were gonna lie they weren't smart enough to make it credible.

She did them with a rolling start.

But, that is my question... why? Fit for what? Being fit to run an elite 100 or 200, is different from being fit to run an 800. They are different... period.

trackcoach wrote:

Stingo Rarr wrote:

Why? Do the sprinters at A&M do 800 TT's? Does Bolt do an 800 TT? I've never heard of Darvis Patton running a 800 TT.

Just wondering why a sprinter would run a 800 TT? I can see a 400 guy having some potential, but usually, a 600 TT can tell you a lot.

It is not really a TT, it is more like a fitness gauge before you start technique and event specific training. Marion Jones would run a 2:07 or 2:08 in early March and Sanya Richards would run about 2:05 or 2:06.

Stingo Rarr wrote:

Why? Do the sprinters at A&M do 800 TT's? Does Bolt do an 800 TT? I've never heard of Darvis Patton running a 800 TT.

Just wondering why a sprinter would run a 800 TT? I can see a 400 guy having some potential, but usually, a 600 TT can tell you a lot.

Most elite sprinters do an early season overdistance fitness test; in fact, a lot of professional sports teams do this as well.

Stingo Rarr wrote:

But, that is my question... why? Fit for what? Being fit to run an elite 100 or 200, is different from being fit to run an 800. They are different... period.

trackcoach wrote:

It is not really a TT, it is more like a fitness gauge before you start technique and event specific training. Marion Jones would run a 2:07 or 2:08 in early March and Sanya Richards would run about 2:05 or 2:06.

Fit to recover from workouts quicker due to higher capillary density. Also, Felix is a world class 400M runner, so it's not a big deal for her to run an 800M to test fitness.

Not trying to be a butthead, but you're missing my point... WHY would a sprinter do an over-distance "fitness test"?

What information do you gain from a 100-200m sprinter running an 800?

Is a 400 not sufficient enough?

Is a 600 not enough for a 400m runner?

you're not being a butthead, only butting heads

"long sprinters", the 400m guys, will do some overdistance stuff, but mostly 600's pre-season. only 1 in a million will ever do a TT800, however that 1 might be Felix.

"short sprinters", the 100/200 guys, never TT800. never. they do 400's pre-season.

This applies to guys. Girls, I don't know--maybe all the 400 girls do TT800.

Maul PcCartney wrote:

Fit to recover from workouts quicker due to higher capillary density. Also, Felix is a world class 400M runner, so it's not a big deal for her to run an 800M to test fitness.

You're a goofball. Capillary density only increases significantly on long runs over 30 minutes in length.

Repeats in the 600-1600m range only work on glycogen utilization in Type IIA and Faster Type I fibers. It does next to nothing at all for capillary function or Type IIB/X fibers and may even be harmful for higher end Type IIX nerve stimulation.

The only sprinters I'd be giving this workout too would be 400ers in a build up phase, especially female 400ers because to a woman a 400 is more like a 500 to a man. It seems Kersee is doing exactly that and giving his athletes a decent training base for Glycogen utilization (for sprints) not long distance running.

Another interesting tidbit, longer intervals in the 600-1600m range can actually increase nerve contraction threshold for Type IIA and Type I fibers, and even better designed workouts beyond the basic interval can increase this effect again.

It would be interesting to hear the entire workout.

bobby sss wrote:

like a gazelle wrote:

Hmm. Wonder if she's trying to build some 800 strength. I'd love to see what she can do in that distance.

A few years back she ran a meet at USC and ran around a 2:18

Surely she just jogged that and didn't 'race' it. That's dreadfully slow for a 49.59 second 400 gal.