Great news! Welcome home. June 9-10 can't get here fast enough for me. I can't believe your jogging after 4 days. Her technique is clearly fine tuned. My past 5 1/2 weeks of PT has me down to a 31 inch waist and I have dropped almost 13 lbs from 45 minutes of core work and 45 minutes of brisk walking . Soreness is always there as well as the pulling feeling in my testicles when raising my left leg, but I know the end is near so I pay it little mind at this point. Hopefully it will help my recovery. Thanks for all the great updates while in Munich.
Mike in Va
That is incredible. That is awesome. Congrats. What did she say was wrong? Was it a Rectis Abdominis tear?
Shoot me your email addy when you get a min..
Albert, Den and MeLLoDraMa -- Thanks for the updates. Very valuable to the whole community. And congrats on solid progress for all.
Before your surgery did your symptoms include tight adductors?
Another question - Did Dr. Muschaweck prescribe any particular physical training other than the jogging, running, and then finally playing after 8 days? Are situps allowed? (Not that I would suggest any.)
Your progress is wonderful news.
Diagnosis was 2cmx2cm district protrusion of posterior abdominal wall.
Mike in VA,
Wow.. I'm prob at 33 inches now and looking forward to trimming up a bit.. With your level of fitness, I would imagine nothing less than a speedy recovery.
No tightness in adductors though it seems after going to PT, adductor stretches would somewhat reduce pain before physical activity. Dr. UM didn't recommend any PT other than what you were/weren't recommended to do until x amount of time passed. I'm able to do sit ups and leg lifts/flutter kicks w/o pain, though to be sure I'm going to lay off any weights and core work until next week.
I just got back from a brisk 30-minute walk... no pain. Most of the swelling has subsided, still a little puffy. But I can walk up and down stairs easily. I think I actually might have progressed a little quicker, but my cat tried to jump in my lap a couple days ago and caused me to tighten up a bit. I may try the treadmill tomorrow if I don't wake up with any pain. I still have one more 30 minute walk to finish tonight for a total of four today.
We should have a sports hernia reunion some day...
Wow....you guys are amazing. I just got back from pool work and i did 5 laps frontwards...5 backwards.....5 sideways....
adduction x 20 abduction x 20 flexion x 20 extension x 20
can really feel it in the adductors with the resistance of the water....however, the other side adduction i can feel it more on the surgery side because i am balancing on the surgery side/foot.
I really feel good after the pool work but get real sore an hour later.
The flexibility is very very good now. Driving still tires my adductors out because i unlike most have my right side operated on. After a ling ride my shin and calf still get tight....but nowhere near as bad pre-surgery.
Still have some lumbar tenderness bouncing around depending on what i do. I attribute this to not having any core work in years.....(due to the RA tear) and now being overweight....My waist is 38...so i can not compete> i will get to a 34 and get down to 200 where i am around 10% bodyfat....I have to do it smart and methodical because i want to limit my setbacks....
Funny you mention your cat....One of my biggest worries when I get back from surgery is my 90lb Lab who is always looking to play or wrestle ...its fun as hell....but after this surgery Ill have to watch my back....I cant even chance taking him on my rehab walks cause at a moments notice he can catch a scent/catch me off gaurd and yank me with him....not good for SH
Albert...we cant compare our rehabs to the guys who go to Dr Um......Our procedure with Meyers is a lot more invasive so Pain/recovery/Rehab is longer.....plus our injury is 5 years old and we have a multitude of different torn areas along with the Dysfunctions that came along with it over the years.............Id love to see an O.R. report from one of the guys that went to Dr Um and compare it to Alberts jsut to see whats different and what is the same in what they do
What about passport and visa for Munich? Were those necessary?
It also looks and sounds like it is more of a bulge that is repaired than a tear off the pubis. I think someone addressed that earlier.
I am pleased. I have underlying issues that need to be addressed like waves discussed. However, i was in pain 24/7 and now i am not. I still get some aches and stuff.....I am on my way. I actually just jogged 50 yards on the grass...No reason...just felt like it...No pain...
I am definitely pushing it. I have mowed the lawn....done 2+ hours of cardio a day.....(this is getting downgraded and an hour will be core strength training to replace it)...I think i will be ready for it soon..(day or so)...TVA activation...bridges....tilts....cat backs...step ups...etc....I may try to do that tomorrow.
I know I can not compare my surgery to UM's...My scar is big (even by Meyers standards) so just from that standpoint alone it is more invasive.
I actually looked at my pubic area today and there is still a noticeable difference in swelling from one side to the otehr. However, it is nothing like it was before. Body appears to be absorbing it. i can now actually manipulate my scar directly. Before it was too tender. Now it just feels like a cable underneath the skin...
You are right... we all have different issues and had different procedures. I'm still optimistic with the mesh procedure I had done until proven otherwise. It is exciting to see that some of UM's patients are recovering so quickly, but mine seems to be moving pretty well so far -- better than I expected anyway.
Just get a valid US Passport, that is all you need. If you expedite a Passport request you'll get it in less than 1 week (normal turn around is 6 weeks+ ). My wife's came in less than 5 days (for a price of course.).
Mike in Va
It's my left groin that is usually the problem. But sometimes after I do some exercising I'll later feel some prickly pains in my right groin area, though not nearly as much as my left. Does this mean I probably have bilateral sports hernia?
Anybody know if Dr. Muschaweck charges double the price if she fixes both sides?
Symptoms can appear on the opposite side....1st year mine was strictly left sided....then over the last 4 I would get symptoms on the opposite side......more and more....MRI in November showed tears just on left side...so that should tell you its probably compensation ....Thats even what Dr Meyers tells you....but you could never rule out Bi-lateral....only way you will know is to get The MRI from Meyers or the Ultrasound from the German Doc
Obviously, you need a proper diagnosis, but I don't think it necessarily means you have a bilateral problem. Last spring, when my injury was at its worst, I had terrible inflammation on the left side where the injury is -- almost felt like swelling. As it progressed, I started to get "prickling" sensations in my right groin. I don't think that means I have a problem on the right side -- although I'm sure it is possible. Because of the instability, I was getting sharp pains throughout my pelvis when I would get off the couch. I only had the left side repaired -- so I have to see how it turns out.
It's brutally hard to get a proper diagnosis for this injury from a doctor who doesn't have any specific experience in sports hernias. Every doctor who deals strictly with standard inguinal hernias either knows nothing about sports hernias or thinks they know everything about sports hernias; when in fact, they could never begin to understand a sports hernia without actually performing the procedure specifically for the injury. But as you know reading these posts, there are several accomplished surgeons who can probably help you, not only in your diagnosis, but actually perform the operation. Look at this way, you have a chance to make an appointment with a surgeon who has operated on some of the top athletes in the world.
This was a HUGE concern for me too. The last 4 months of my injury i was having tremendous tightness and it was eerily familiar. I was so worried that he wasn't seeing something. However, my MRI showed no tears on that side. Meyers told me it is very common because of compensatory problems without us even knowing. In fact he said it was similar to an old dresser drawer pulling one side out at a time. So each time you adjust your pelvis it strains muscles that are not used to it. It got to a point where i could sleep on 1 side for a few hours until the pain woke me up and then i would flip over and it would start over again.
Den is right. You need a diagnosis. Guessing and suspecting is just that and it will eat you up. I was in so much pain that i needed to know, but i was sure i had it on both sides.
On a different note I am on day 3 of no pain...just incision tightness...
The pool is the key because you can really work the adductors out. i am now doing scissors, crossovers in addtition to other excercises....I also started foam rolling my adductors yesterday and it felt great. I always hated to do this because it hurt me. Even my quads are loose now....This surgery has been a godsend. I have a long way to go but i am amazed how much stronger i am getting each day and how the more i do the more the body adapts and the inflammatory response lessens. Meyers is right...It is a use it or lose it proposition. I realize I am only day 19 and many do not start the PT until after week 4 but I feel strong enough to do it.
I wish continued success to the Munich guys. You are amazing. I realize it is a different procedure but i respect the fact you sought out your cure even though it is 6k miles away. It should be a lesson to anyone who has this. The only thing to fear is fear itself. We have seen people on here time and time again try to approach it conservatively......just to fail. Not any of their doing but this injury is a bitch and needs to be repaired.
One look at the German Doctors soccer patient was amazing. if i had that injury I would be getting my plane ticket asap. that was amazing.
I went back through and read most of your posts. And like most, you want surgery to be the last course of action. I felt the same way also -- and I employed every natural plan that I knew of. I spent thousands of dollars on massage, rolfing, physical therapy, diet, and supplements. I did show improvement in flexibility with physical therapy and massage, but I could never make the inflammation go away. Eventually, I would plateau, and in one case, I overworked it -- which was horribly painful. I think you realize this, but short term rest will only ease serious acute pain. It won't make the problem go away. In fact, I think it gets worse because you lose muscle tone. Once that happens, you are in a vicious cycle.
I think you are right to question the surgery, but know when to draw the line. When I went to see Dr. Hoadley, he said that he thinks most of these injuries will resolve themselves if caught early enough. And he even said that my exam was not that impressive in terms of discomfort or pain. But he said that being on the sidelines for 18 months is enough to know that it probably isn't going to heal on its own.
I'm healing nicely after four days and walking continuously for 30 minutes without pain or altered gait, but still worried about the mesh repair. And I also am concerned that I may still have a labral hip tear. Imaging showed negative for FAI, but still concerned about a possible tear.
I'm probably going to try the stationary bike this afternoon. Dr. Hoadley's goal was for me to be walking on a treadmill by 5/28 and I think I'm way ahead of that. Can't get on a treadmill today since the gym is closed. I'm up to walking four times a day outside for 30 minutes, including hills here in Western North Carolina.
The only real pain I have is at the incision point. I have some muscle soreness from pulling myself out of bed etc., but no significant pain in day 4. I'm happy with this quick recovery, but it remains to be seen whether or not I can play soccer again.
I plan on keeping everyone posted... I know how emotionally draining this injury is -- so I hope to have good news.
Thanks. That's good to hear. I'm going to try to get diagnosis from Dr. Muschaweck.
It seems to my you are progressing faster than anybody could have expected.
I'm pretty sure there are millions people for whom mesh successfully solved their inguinal hernia 100%. I have a friend who had inquinal surgery with mesh about 10 years ago. No problems at all.
INTERESTING HERNIA SKETCH
I came across this "hernia types" sketch, thought it was interesting. Here's the link: