Anyone ever had a "Sports Hernia" aka: "Sportsman's hernia", "Gilmore's groin", or "

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dip101

13 years ago 05/05/2006 4:55am CDT
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Hi,

My Names Matt aged 27 from the UK.

I must say that this site is most informative.

I had the Gilmore's Groin / Sports Hernia for about 18 months. Definitely the worst 18 months of my life, the pain and no exercise was unbearable. Having seen some dodgy Physio's and Dr after Dr and being passed from pillar to post for about 12 months was most frustrating. I was finally referred to a sports injury specialist: Dr Graham Holloway who operates at the BMI Ridegway Clinic in Wroughton Swindon Wiltshire. He seem to definitely diagnose my pain/injury to a tee and was most understanding.

He booked me in for the operation within the week. I had it done on the Friday 7th of April 2006. And here¡¦s my story so far.

Week 1 post op: pretty painful & stiff for the first 4-5 days. Was told had to stand up straight and walk around the room. Ps. What ever you do, don't sneeze, it hurts like hell!!!!!! lol

2nd week post op: The operation pain seem to have gone. Walking around a lot more, all be it not very far. Getting out of bed and up from sitting is pretty painful. Doing a few bed exercises such as leg raises with one knee bent up to my chest. That seemed to help my mobility, as couldn¡¦t really pull on my socks and shoes as was quite tight.
Had my first physio appointment (Make Liefhebber). Said my legs & upper body were doing all the work and that my core stability and hips were being left out. Still hurts when I sneeze.

3rd week post op: Much more mobile, walking longer distances and things seemed good¡K¡K had my 3rd physio session which was a bit more intense, doing some work on the way a I run and some hard core work. No pain during and after exercise for the first 2 physio appointments, but getting some weird shooting pain down my adductors, pain in my lower back and lower abdominals after my 3rd physio appointment. No pain when I sneeze now ƒº. Was told I could jog, but pain in my lower back and adductors when I tried so cut that one short.

4th week post op: That¡¦s today! keep on thinking that the pains I¡¦m getting during and after exercise means that the op was not a successful.

Think all this rubbish of 4-6 weeks recovery is a load of rubbish¡K..... Especially since I had the symptoms for 18 months¡K¡K
giocatore

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13 years ago 05/05/2006 4:29pm CDT
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Are you Dr. Morelli from the groin institute? I looked at the web site. I saw on there that some have used bisphosphonates for the treatment of osteitis pubis. I have been diagnosed with that and was wondering if that would be a safe and effective treatment option. I am scheduled to go see Dr. Meyers on the 16th of this month and do not want to have surgery unless that is my only option of being able to play soccer again. I had the hernia repair done by Dr. Ulrike Muschaweck in Munich back in december and my abdominals feel great. But i still have the pain where my adductors attach to my pubic bone during kicking and sprinting,or any time i squeeze my legs together. My pubis symphysis is also tender, along with some areas of my pubic bone during palpation. I have had this problem since august and i am wondering if i will ever be able to play professionally again. I am sure Dr. Meyers will want to perform the adductor release procedure if i go see him. Will that relieve my pain?? Dr. Muschaweck doesn't have a high opinion of that procedure. What is your opinion??? I would appreciate as much information as you care to give me. Please e-mail me contact info to [email protected] if you have time. Thank you.
docsgirl

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13 years ago 05/07/2006 9:57pm CDT

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you are right. good information at the site. What kind of damage was sustained from Katrina? Are appointments available?
v morelli wrote:

good informational site at groininstitute.com--Vm
v morelli

13 years ago 05/09/2006 11:21am CDT
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We're 10 miles from downtown New Orleans--so weren't too damaged by Katrina--appointments are available --just log on and request --V Morelli
i know what this is

13 years ago 05/10/2006 7:47am CDT
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There is a man back in 1980 that diagnosed this injury as Gilmore's Groin. His name is O. J. A. Gilmore and he developed a surgery for this and it has been working ever since. He describes it as a musculo-tendinous injury of the groin. It is a tear of the adductor muscles, usually high up near the attachment to the pubic bone. It is more commonly known as "sportsmen's hernia"
gtaseff

13 years ago 05/10/2006 12:43pm CDT
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Question: how does "gilmore's groin" aka "sportsman's hernia" differ from osteitis pubis? I have been diagnosed with the latter, and have been sidelined from running for 3 months. Moreover, I don't feel any improvement, as I still experience persistent groin pain. Can Cattey or Meyers or any sports physician treat OP via the surgery you are describing or some other procedure? Does "core strengthening" provide any relief? thanks to all for contributing to a valuable thread that affects a lot of us.

Canadasprinter

13 years ago 05/10/2006 3:27pm CDT
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yeah im pretty sure i have something similar to this, last year it started with lower ab pain on the right side which didnt interfer with running, and then it turned into groin pain on the right side which made my groin feel weak when i ran.

this year i havent done anything differently except switch coaches and running style and the groin pain has dissapeared. i still have pain in my lower right ab and recently lower left ab which scares me a little bit but doesnt interfer with running ....yet. anyone experience this/know how to get rid of it?
Canadian girl

13 years ago 05/11/2006 10:31am CDT
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Canadasprinter, not sure you're at this stage yet (have you found a good physiotherapist?), but for anyone in Canada who has had something like this problem and it's not responding to conservative treatment, see if you can get a referral to Dr. Ogilvie-Harris, an orthopedic surgeon in Toronto.

I have had 5+ years of chronic groin strain/pain (started out as a distance running thing, eventually degenerated much further), which didn't respond to any conservative treatment. A cortisone injection in the symphysis seemed to work for a while, until I started jogging again, and then it was back to square one. After a second cortisone injection (2 yrs later), I started doing some core work and experienced a sudden sharp pain in the same-side pelvic region; was diagnosed as a rectus abdominus strain. The pain and almost total disability were awful - could not walk or even stand for long without wearing an inguinal hernia truss, but no actual hernia was present and MRI showed minor stuff like "changes consistent with chronic strain" in the adductor. Finally got referred out to Dr. OH, who said it was sportsman's hernia and operated. Apparently in Canada this procedure has been performed on lots of women, as we have a large number of female hockey and soccer players. Experience elsewhere has pretty much been limited to males.

Anyhow, Dr. OH repaired what turned out to be a significant tear to the abdominal wall, ligament (inguinal I think), and tendon, and released the adductor longus. His advice as to recovery period was a little different than what I've been reading here - he said to take it easy and not start rehab for 6 weeks post-surgery, long enough for the tissue to heal. His follow up has been quite good, and he works out of a specialized sports medecine clinic to which he refers to physio post-surgery.

6 weeks after surgery, I still have adductor pain (not surprising, given how weak that muscle's become) and some pain around the incision, but am walking (bit slow) again without the support of a truss or S/I belt. The abdominal pain is gone. Start physio tomorrow, so we'll see.
Kozak55

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13 years ago 05/11/2006 4:16pm CDT
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I live in Thunder Bay and had a referal to Dr. Harris and got a phone call a week later saying that Dr. Harris was unable to help me. I have had a sports hernia since August and now have to go to Montreal to see Dr. Brown and pay for the surgery. Dr. Brown has worked on alot of big name sports figures who have returned to there sport so I believe I am making the right choice. Plus who knows why Dr.Harris could not do my surgery maybe he only does it on females by the sounds of it. My surgery date is June 7th so I will post how it goes.
hernia gal

13 years ago 05/11/2006 5:22pm CDT

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I was just curious by looking at the size of this thread (and most imformative as well) who had the surgery with Dr. Meyers and Dr. Cattey and now that female doctor in Munich?

I was wondering if everyone had success in their results and are back to normal running. Dr. Meyers did my surgery in 3/05 and it took me SIX months to get back. No 12 weeks and back in teh game for me. Did everyone do well; did others, not so well?

Just curious
marathnr

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13 years ago 05/11/2006 7:34pm CDT
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hernia gal, good to see someone else besides me had a longer recovery. I had the surgery 19 weeks ago and am still not 100% with running. I am better no doubt, but am guessing I may need 6-8 months to recover. I had the surgery in Minn. with Joesting.
JPL

13 years ago 05/11/2006 8:10pm CDT
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I had the surgey with Meyers and it took a full six months. I also went through the mental anguish early on thinking it didn't work. Three months did not do it, I needed more time. It seemed to improve in fits an starts; I'd make a big improvement and then stall for a while and then another big improvement. I'm 11 months out now and feel like a million bucks am super-fit can run steep trails, run fast long and shot races, sprint and play basketball with abandon. Cheers to Wm. Meyers.

ds

13 years ago 05/13/2006 1:29pm CDT
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So glad to hear that. I will be 3 weeks from the surgery this week. It was harder than I thought. I will start therapy soon. Dr. Meyers is great and I do have faith that all went well and I'll be back to normal without constant pain.
hernia gal

13 years ago 05/13/2006 3:57pm CDT
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Not sure if anyone has been following the saga of Grant Hill. He had surgery with Dr. Meyers (not sure when). The last I read about him is that he is still in pain and that if he needs another hernia surgery he will retire from baskteball. Shame - he's had a rough go of it.
ggallinoto

13 years ago 05/15/2006 8:05pm CDT

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Responding to vmorelli anout groin/ab./hip pain. I am seeing a doctor(general surgeon)in CT. Are there any specific questions or comments I should provide to insure he knows what a sports hernia is? I've gone to too many doctors that just ask me to drop my drawers and checks for an inguinal hernia. I'm really frustrated and feel like there's no one (in CT) that knows what I'm talking about. Please respond.
realmadridman

13 years ago 05/16/2006 9:25pm CDT
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Unfortunately I think I've got everyone in here beat... Didn't have time to read 'em all but I've been dealing with what I believe is a Sports Hernia for about 8 years now and it has been friggin killing me since I was 25 years old. Sometimes it goes away, I can play soccer, run, cycle, lift weights etc. But at the end of any exercise it usually is bothering me again.

I've pretty much been to a doctor once a year through these eight years each time thinking "okay now it's got to be a hernia." I go in there and they do the grab your nuts and cough test and tell me there is no hernia. One time I was prescribed antibiotics which didn't do anything. No doctor could tell me what was going on. I finally saw a doctor who does a lot of work for soccer players and he told me it was a groin pull but my big question is why would it hurt in the testicle? To this question he didn't have much of an answer but just to scoot me along as he was so busy.

The pain is on my right side - a year and a half ago I broke my fibula and chipped a large piece off the bottom of my tibia in my left leg playing soccer. This caused my left leg to be rendered useless for two months - I had to get around on cruches and my right leg for those two months which caused a lot of stress on my right side and an inability to rest it. The broken leg pain paled in comparison to the constant dull aching pain on my right side in the groin region.

At the end of it all I guess I'm asking does anyone know of a good doctor in southern California that could help me with this? Also, do you guys think this is a sports hernia?

My symptoms are:
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Pain in the right testicle as if I had recently been kicked in the nuts, but only on the right side

Pain above the right testicle in the pubic area much like a traditional hernia but no buldging or swelling

reflective pain down the right side of my leg in the inner thigh.

All of this pain usually occurs after exercise or weight lifting but will go away with rest typically.

Sometimes the pain will start at night for no real reason, I'll be fine all day, night comes and my nut hurts - what the?
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I've found ibuprofren to help a little bit and drinking alcohol, but I don't feel like getting wasted every night and turning into and alcoholic just cuz my nut hurts.

Someone please help me - this is the first time I've found a forum where people sound like they have an answer and I can relate to them... everyone I talk to about this (including doctors) in my life looks at me like I'm a complete idiot. Myself and my right nut are together yet despairingly alone in this world.
jamer

13 years ago 05/17/2006 1:03pm CDT
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Simply sounds like a Sports Hernia, which need's treated..with the bio mesh, the pain in the nuts is I understand not uncommon even though your testical is fine..it is simply referred pain down the nerves.

see the link above on groin injuries..it covers it pretty well.
shark

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13 years ago 05/20/2006 1:00am CDT
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Hey, JPL... I just had surgery with Meyers just over a week ago and have been resting in bed mostly since the op. I was really impressed with his care for patients as well. I was just wondering on how much scar tissue you had around the incission? How long did you feel a pain? Also I need to get rehabing next week so I can try to start my soccer career over. Do you have any suggestions on exercise programs that work (i.e. week-to-week)
Thanks
shark

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13 years ago 05/20/2006 1:01am CDT
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Hey, JPL... I just had surgery with Meyers just over a week ago and have been resting in bed mostly since the op. I was really impressed with his care for patients as well. I was just wondering on how much scar tissue you had around the incission? How long did you feel a pain? Also I need to get rehabing next week so I can try to start my soccer career over. Do you have any suggestions on exercise programs that work (i.e. week-to-week)
Thanks
jtbooch

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13 years ago 05/22/2006 2:37pm CDT
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Shark, I had the surgery in April with Dr. Meyers and couldn\'t agree more. He cares for his patients and does whatever possible to make you feel comfortable and at ease.

As for some of your questions, I still feel some pain in the lower ab area and some in the groin area. I am 5 weeks in to his protocol. You should get his rehab protocol after your follow up exam. I am relieved to hear that there are people out there who have had the surgery and took up to and longer than 6 months to fully recover. As I said, I am at 5 weeks now and do not feel that I will be sprinting in the near future. I was starting to get frustrated until I found this forum.