I don´t know why the thread was deleted. How should i know ? Might be because i did post anonymous on that thread ! (kidding)
About John Hadd early and late comments on Lydiard training Early he said that "my training is Lydiard".
Let me see if i can make you undertand.
You see, when someone comes close to you and ask you what you think about one issue (Lydiard training) that his dogma axiom is "Lydiard the perfect training" ther´s nothing to answer out o "I also i´m a Lydiard" or "i just follow Lydiard".
Why ? The answer is in the sentence "don´t give pearls to the pigs" that is the same that to waist your time try to teach other about your idea to the one that doesn´t accept your different idea, it´s useless to try to teach something to the individual that got previous ideas made in stone, that his idea is nothing but a pre-concept, in the poor meaning of a pre-concept (something unchangeable).
There Hadd taught to himself, why shall i make an effort and be generous to someone that ask me questions but just wants that i got an answer that is just equal to the preconceived idea they ot about that issue of the answer ?
There, his way to avoid to be inconvenient to those people it´s to say what it pleases them. There the logical assertive answer "my training is Lydiard".
However somehow he said the truth about his training be Lydiard. He emphasis the aerobic interest in the long distance approach, and a few other Lydiard principles. I also share. i said that aerobics is very important, it´s fundamental in the distance training approach. The problem is that is neither learned from Lydiard and also this is one principle but the apllication of that principle is different, therefore we got very different training organization, diffrent periodisation, different way to see every single training issue diffrent from Lydiard.
Also i and John we do accept Lydiard as a great coach master, but we don´t accept to link that as the Lydiardism, we don´t accept that Lydiard is the lead, or ever be the world lead of training methodology, we don´t accept that he got a perfect training, we don´t accept that Lydiard is as the sun the solar system, that he represents the sun where every other training method are just planets going around or be attached by the majestic of the sun.We don´t accept that despite Lydiard did outstand performances with his runners - it´s a fact no one can deny he did either - that is training goes to be enthroned as the worlds best training, the perfect training the more 40 years later. Finally we don´t accept Lydiard clone coaches or Lydiard revised.
However the "don´t give pearls to pigs, but treat them politely " finishes for John Hadd the day they wanted to profit from his own training method, his ow training idea, to spread the idea he is a Lydiard fundamentalist, that they want to know Hadd training ideas but they don´t accept his Lydiard criticism, they want to take him as Lydiard clown, as some of them they are.
Then after some moment he moved from letargie and be polite and passes to his late strategy - the attack with his own opinion they like it or they don´t.
As he doesn´t agree that one of the Lydiardism strategy is to ask for my identification, when themselves, one for each other a few of them they post anonymous without complain, there he decided to post anonymous as well, in solidarity with myself.
I will try to send you the thread file, but i need to search in several my computers, and i can search after new year eve. But if i got it, i will send you or i will post in the LetsRunCom eventually.
The answer about Iberia (Portugal and Spain) or european rise and fall i left for one next post because it´s one very interesting issue of debate but takes a complex and extend answer, because it´snot a question with an straight answer.
In my opinion one clue of that answer lies on the training method.