Sarah Baxter, Mary Cain....The college search is on!

This thread has brought out the character of posters such as "coach d". If one were to read through posts of "coach d" and a couple others, you will find them honing in on any discussion of Oregon...with negativity as their calling card. Fact is, Oregon is a fine academic school (besides how many pragmatic people realize that it is the student more than the school that determines the quality of an undergrad education).

The second point is that Oregon truly offers the most well-rounded quality track and field/xc program in the country. If a kid goes to Oregon, they will get excellent coaching and support and they will get a good education...provided they put in the work.

Over the past few years, "coach d" has been exposed enough for his lack of knowledge of our sport, yet he continues to come here spewing his hatred under the guise of knowing what he talking about. Loser!!

Ore is standard and o.k. Same same as any accredited university. It small states colleges have a state mandate to serve the teaching profession and thus have 1/2 vocational staffs and courses designed for secondary school teachers. Ore U and Ore St fit that pattern exactly.

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If I'm remembering correctly she wasn't a recruited runner. I don't believe she made All-scholastic (Globe) one time?

If she had a handful of top 'ships to chose from she still may have gone to Hanover,NH. But I doubt it.

I know a bit about Abbey D and Dartmouth. Abbey was recruited by the coach who was replaced by Mark Coogan. She didn't meet Coogan until she got to campus that fall. She wasn't a standout in High School so she probably didn't have that many schools after her. Dartmouth just lucked out, as they did with Alexis Pappas who wasn't recruited at all. Both got into Dartmouth based on Academics, but turned out to be perhaps the two best women runners to ever come out of the Ivy League.

I have been impressed with Coogan's coaching. Getting Abbey D. to a 2nd place finish this year at the NCAA XC could not have been easy. She was injured most of the season, so she could only cross train and had to sit out races.

Getting back to the topic...although I think Mary C. would well at Dartmouth, the chances are slim that she would go there...for one Ivy's don't even give athletic scholarships. I would say Oregon if running is her priority; if she wants a degree from a top tier school then Stanford. Oregon is an excellent school but it doesn't have the "name".

iui wrote:

another opinion wrote:

I taught at Oregon State and the two schools are on about even terms academically. They are OK but not great schools. Not sure where they would rank in the Big Ten but they might be behind everyone but Nebraska and that is a question too. On the other hand, in the SEC it would be in the upper tier, with only Vanderbilt clearly better, but Florida (especially) and Georgia probably a bit better.

What makes you say that they are not great schools? How are they not as good as Stanford? Math doesnt change from school to school

How about 'I taught at these and other schools'. What part of that do you not understand? As for 'math is the same'; that is an illustration that you really do not know what you are taking about. Do you really think that going to class at Stanford (or Cal or ...) is the same as going to school at any other semi-reputable US college you have not had adequate experience having a lot of classmates of both types on multiple occasions. I learned a lot more of the underlying math going to grad school in a field that is not math but had good peers than I did in college.

What about Arizona? They're doing great and are among the top contenders now.

What about Arizona? They're doing great and are among the top contenders now.