Division 1 XC/Adams State D2

We hear this all the time. D2 isn't anywhere near D1!

Razz :D

they would have been 2nd just throwing times in. however, my sources tell me the d2 course was as much as 300m short.

vastus medialis wrote:

they would have been 2nd just throwing times in. however, my sources tell me the d2 course was as much as 300m short.

I'm very confused as to where people are saying that the Joplin course was short. Mapping it out, rolling it, and using a Garmin it was right on the dot at 10,000m. It's just a pretty fast course due to the track like surface...if anything it might be like 30sec faster than Louisville, which if that was the case would put Adams State in the top 3 at the D1 meet.

And I don't understand how anyone can say it was accurate. I ran it. I know my paces, and my time did not match. Who are these people who supposedly mapped it out and wheeled it? Because I saw with my own two eyes a satellite measurement that had it at 6.02 miles.

Let's look at it at another angle. Kevin Batt of Adams State (RS Frosh) got 2nd at the Stanford Invite early in the year, beating Joe Rosa who got 3rd and the rest of the Stanford runners. At D2 nats, there were 2 other guys from Adams State within 4 seconds and 2 more not too far back. So they would probably have 2-3 All-Americans and 2 more guys about 40 seconds back in 80th-90th place. I'd say that would give them around 180-200 points in team scoring and put them in the top 5 at the very least. Not bad at all.

areusure? wrote:

We hear this all the time. D2 isn't anywhere near D1!

Razz :D

The crazy thing is that every year D1 denies that Adam State could comepete with the big dogs but when it comes to track they usually have some of the best distance depth the country has.

Just a few years ago they had their top 5 guys under 14 with two in the 13:30's plus a few more sub 30 min 10k guys and sub 9 steeplers and all around they are one of the best programs around. Track times don't lie and they correlate with XC performance. This team right now has 5 guys that could go out and run sub 14:10, possibly even sub 14. They would definately come home with a top 4 finish from this years nationals.

neanderthal dream wrote:

And I don't understand how anyone can say it was accurate. I ran it. I know my paces, and my time did not match. Who are these people who supposedly mapped it out and wheeled it? Because I saw with my own two eyes a satellite measurement that had it at 6.02 miles.

Well, I trust a wheeler a lot more than a satellite watch. 100% sure it was a full 10km. If you log it as a 6.02 fine, but no ones stopping me from knowing it was a full 10km

half the adams state guys would not be D1 eligible. There is a reason Batt is there and not somewhere else.

adams state is the iona/hamilton college of d1