Any minorities on college teams?

Big West might be the most diverse D1 conference in the country. They actually have Asians, Mexicans, etc.

Of course that league has alot of mexicans. They race in an orange field.

Big West might have one of the fastest Asians in the country as well (Strum 3:44 1500)

I went to the MEAC cross country championships and was surprised how few whites there were running for the universities...

There was actually a very good article in, I believe, Running Times, about a year or so ago about how difficult it is to get young black kids into anything besides sprinting and jumping in track. Particularly the inner-city, lower income kids. It is ingrained into their culture that distance running is something they dont do. And this was from the perspective of a black coach.

Runner's World did another one on the National Black Marathoner's Association. From the man that started the foundation:

"In many black communities, there aren't safe places to run. Also, I don't think distance running is considered a glamorous sport in the black community. We tend to get excited about sprinting in track and field, basketball, and baseball. But not many people do those sports after high school, and I want to show that you can be active and healthy for the rest of your life." - Tony Reed

You must all be racists. The legislative answer is obvious.

The NCAA should establish a committee that determines the number, and type, of minorities that must be represented on each team. After the finish of each NCAA sanctioned race, the minorities must have their scores and times adjusted according to a formula that recognizes the historical forces that have unfairly burdened minorities so that they are underrepresented on almost every team in the land. As an example (the committee can do the research to make a proper formula) 35 places per 100 should be subtracted for certain minorities, and possibly 60 or so for blacks. Or they could just simplify and subtract 15-90 seconds per mile, depending on how much is needed to give the minorities sufficient high finishes and all conference, all American and other awards.

To help achieve this, scholaships must be apportioned to minorites on a similar basis in order to achieve sufficient diversity, which is such a sacrosant goal in higher education.

All sports will be required to do extensive paperwork which shows the racial make up of their teams, and the action plan each athletic department has in place for compliance.

Of course, this will not apply to basketball, football or track and field.

But for real UCR recruits by just having practice in the orange grooves. The mexicans stop picking and start running too cause they think INS is around the bend. Eventually they just join the team.

Overanalyzing wrote:

5/25 on the OK State mens roster are African American. Some of the others may be of native American or hispanic descent (one photo is unavailable).

You have a pretty loose definition of "African American." Do you mean they're African, and they live in America now?

Someone who was born in another country and may have gone to high school in the U.S. (for a while, anyway) does not meet most folks' definition of "African American."

Yes race is complicated to define. STFU

Yeah, OK wrote:

Muslim* my bad

Okay, this whole thread is pretty ridiculous, but I have to call this out. I don't want to be mean, because I think you might just be confused and maybe because I grew up in metro-Detroit, I'm just more aware of it. Muslim is a religion and not a "race". Not everyone from a country of the Arab world is Muslim, and not ever Muslim lives in the Arab world. In fact, the largest number of Muslims in the world live in Indonesia. So saying someone is Muslim in no way helps a discussion on "race". That would be like me chiming in and saying, "I know a team that had two Baptists, five Catholics, and a Mormon."

fix it? wrote:

Yeah, OK wrote:

Muslim* my bad

Okay, this whole thread is pretty ridiculous, but I have to call this out. I don't want to be mean, because I think you might just be confused and maybe because I grew up in metro-Detroit, I'm just more aware of it. Muslim is a religion and not a "race". Not everyone from a country of the Arab world is Muslim, and not ever Muslim lives in the Arab world. In fact, the largest number of Muslims in the world live in Indonesia. So saying someone is Muslim in no way helps a discussion on "race". That would be like me chiming in and saying, "I know a team that had two Baptists, five Catholics, and a Mormon."

Dude, point taken, but he was making fun of an earlier poster who had used "Muslim" as a race.

But the real question is how many jews?

personally why should anybody be concerned?

are you or anybody else trying to imply that there is some sort of racial barrier that is holding so-called "minorities" back from competeing at the HS or college level in XC or Track ?

if black americans or mexican-americans want to run XC they can and often do, at least at the HS level. I had at least 5 black memebers on a HS XC team of about 40 guys total. Truth be told, though, that not a single one of them approached the sport with the seriousness and intensity of the white or asian runners

Perhaps thats why they didn't move on to compete at the college level..?!

Personally, as a white american--a PC certified "non-minority" member--i am not concerned one bit by my ethnic group's lack of representation in college level basketball or college level sprint events. I'm not even concerned that, as white americans, we make up less of the roster of Pro sports across all the major sports than our population should indicate...

why should mr "sjp", apparently a mexican-american, "take it personally" that not enough "people of color" run at the college level...

who cares anyway?

oh yeah, the PC crowd does...the racial bean counters

should Kevin Love "take it personally" that as a white man he feels so out of place in the NBA?

this is the excellent hypocrisy of LetsRun moderaters--

they leave up threads and responses which encourage "diversity" (while simeaultaneously implicating white americans by default)and take down almost immediately threads (like from 1-2 days ago) questioning the role of diversity; such as if so-called "minorities" are in fact true minorities...

well, mods., we know whose backside your head is stuck up in

dude what are you getting worked up about. i started this just to explore a topic and get some responses. just wanted to see how prevalent minorities are in ncaa xc teams. i think the discussion has been fine here. dont cry about it.

my response was not really directed at you, the OP--although i could see how you might've thought so.

i simply wrote a general response (you were looking for various response, were you not...)

theres no need to demean myself or my answer by characterizing it as "crying"

i assure you i was not worked up even slightly when i wrote it...

people, like their ideas, ought to be judged, if judged at all, by their merit...and not by extrinsic factors.

The real athletes blacks, go out for the real sports like

football and basketball.

Funny that the concern is minorities instead of diversity. In many areas blacks and Mexicans aren't the minority. How many Indians (the dot kind) do they have in big west? How many sand niggas?