Why Wisconsin will NOT qualify for NCAAs

I run for one of the schools that you think will help oust Wisconsin.

Ahmed or not, we will not beat them.

Bansy wrote:

[quote]academicssss wrote:

I know that WISCO's top runner got into wisconsin and was unable to get into a couple of other big ten schools. So check your stats.[quote]

Unless the other couple were Michigan and Northwestern, I call BS. I don't know if Wisconsin pulls strings for runners, but there are no Big Ten schools harder to get into than those three. Maybe individual majors here and there, but overall, Wisconsin is clearly the third-best academic school in the Big Ten. And I'm a Minnesota grad.

Heard of Penn state?

Don't be ridiculous. Wisconsin and Nutty are the masters of fakemonies and taking advantage of reciprocal states and various aid. And at the end, they'll get you in a room and convince you to turn in your aid so they can get a better kid.

If that's the case I would expect they must have a lot of kids tranfer out of there after one or two years.

Terms of bdges wrote:

Bansy wrote:

[quote]academicssss wrote:

I know that WISCO's top runner got into wisconsin and was unable to get into a couple of other big ten schools. So check your stats.[quote]

Unless the other couple were Michigan and Northwestern, I call BS. I don't know if Wisconsin pulls strings for runners, but there are no Big Ten schools harder to get into than those three. Maybe individual majors here and there, but overall, Wisconsin is clearly the third-best academic school in the Big Ten. And I'm a Minnesota grad.

Heard of Penn state?

Don't be ridiculous. Wisconsin and Nutty are the masters of fakemonies and taking advantage of reciprocal states and various aid. And at the end, they'll get you in a room and convince you to turn in your aid so they can get a better kid.

Who else wrote:

Will Arkansas and Oregon make it to nationals this year?

No and No.

Not a duck wrote:

Who else wrote:

Will Arkansas and Oregon make it to nationals this year?

No and No.

No and yes

Honestly, the OP has a valid point. Wisconsin is going to have to rely on some very unproven cross country runners. Brill (8:37 steeple), Hatz ( 3:58 mile), and Finnerty (3:38 1500) all have some very nice track prs, but they have never done anything in cross country. Brice had a couple good cross country races last year with a win at an early race at Illinois and was top 25 at regionals, but he ran really bad at Wisco Invite, Big Tens, and Nationals.

I Definitely think Wisconsin will win Big Tens and easily qualify for nationals with or without Ahmed. However they really need some guys to step up if they want to win nationals again, or even be top four.

Based on how Michigan and Virginia ran today, they'd be lucky to even qualify for NCAAs.

Poiuyt wrote:

Based on how Michigan and Virginia ran today, they'd be lucky to even qualify for NCAAs.

Virginia did not run their #1 guy: Mark Amirault

Michigan did not run their #2/#3 guy: Brendan Blacklaws

Michigan is NOTgood.

If they make nationals, it'll be bacuse Gibby takes them everywhere for points and the Great Lakes sucks this year!

Michigan is far deeper than anyone realizes this year. They will be top 12 AT nationals. It's not even up for debate

wolverines wrote:

Michigan is far deeper than anyone realizes this year. They will be top 12 AT nationals. It's not even up for debate

I predict 15th

It is less than three weeks until the Wisconsin/adidas Invitational, in which Michigan will likely need to score points, as Big Tens can be tough to pick up too much this year, especially if they finish behind Wisconsin and Indiana at both Big Tens and the Regional.

The OP may have a legit point if now Ahmed and Connor both redshirt

Michigan and Notre Dame will beat Wisconsin at regionals for sure if Ahmed and Connor aren't racing

fun. wrote:

The OP may have a legit point if now Ahmed and Connor both redshirt

Michigan and Notre Dame will beat Wisconsin at regionals for sure if Ahmed and Connor aren't racing

The top 5 ranked teams in the Great Lakes region will be in Madison on Friday, presumably with their 'A' squads (other than Wisconsin). We'll have a pretty good idea where the region shakes out Friday night.

The results of this meet will likely have as much impact on Byrne's redshirt decisions, as fitness, the future, etc.

The OP might be onto something...

Wisconsin placed 17th!!!!

http://www.flotrack.org/coverage/249798-2012-Wisconsin-XC-Invitational/article/14810-Pandemonium-and-Race-Results-from-Wisconsin

Note: Remember the OP predicted Oregon not to make nationals in 2011

At the 2011 Wisco Invite Oregon came in 14th.

The prophecy will soon be true...

Ahmed and Connor will run this season, i'm not sure where you are getting your information.

Has this ever happened before, where a team has won nationals then failed to qualify the following year?