Any UFC fighter vs. Mike Tyson

You are a troll, right ? Boxing is a real sport. MMA/UFC is a reality show.

Coming from a UFC and a boxing fan, there currently is no one and has never been a UFC fighter that could have beat Tyson in his prime. Getting Tyson to the ground would definitely be the way to go, but getting him to the ground with out getting hit might be difficult. If Tyson landed a decent blow, it would be lights out for the average UFC guy and if Tyson hits them solid (w/o 16oz gloves), they could end up in the hospital.

There is a system that develops boxers that reach Tyson's level, which can start before they are teenagers. There is the club, recreation/PAL ledgues, state and national golden gloves, the AAU, world amature, professional and Olympic competition before they get a professional contract. The average MMA and UFC guys starts in their mid-20s and only have a coule of years invested in the sport, most professional boxers are retiring arould the time MMA and UFC guys are just hitting their stride. The UFC system has not matured to the point the system has that developed Mike Tyson, but it is getting there.

Another little fad that has come and will be gone soon.

Im sorry but it's silly to imply someone so one-dimensional would defeat every ufc fighter ever in his prime. Top level wrestlers and ju-jitsu practitioners are pretty good at getting people to the ground without getting ko'd. As a fan of ufc, you should know already that mma fighters have ways of keeping strikers at bay without taking heavy blows.

This entire debate is silly anyway. Do you people honestly think that there are no fighters in the fighters that have one punch ko power? You don't need to be as great a boxer as Tyson to possess that power. Ask James Irvin what Anderson Silva can do with one punch. Ask Pat Berry if Cheick Kongo has one puch ko power. Heck, Kongo was dazed and confused when he dropped Berry with one punch. This entire "Tyson can win with one punch" talk is overplayed. Most fighters can win with one punch. That doesn't mean they will land one. What if Tyson tries to punch Anderson Silva and Silva kicks him in the face like he did against Vitor Belfort (who is very fast and quick). Tyson is finished in that scenario. So lets just leave it at Tyson could have had a chance to be a good mma fighter. Any other claim is simply unsubstaniated since Tyson never fought in any grappling/martial arts competitions in his career.

We aren't talking about the average MMA guys, just like we aren't talking about the average boxing guys.

Since you're a fan of both, tell me, how would Mike Tyson's boxing stance change in an MMA fight? Would he not have to widen his base a little bit, to increase his takedown defense, which would also take away some of his power? A guy who relies solely, and only on his punching power would lose a lot of power when he is worried about the takedown. I know you said you're a fan but have you ever trained, or are you just speaking from what you see on your couch?

I recognize Tyson hits very hard but he doesn't land with as much psi as a headkick, courtesy of a top kick boxer. Heck, make it a standup only fight and let me know how Tyson, who is 5'10" gets in range to land anything on 6'11.5 Semmy Schilt.

Did you not see Ray Mercer get destroyed in his K1 fights? Tell me one top MMA fighter who has world class stand-up without any wrestling or jiu-jitsu. You mention that boxers have perfected their art since they were little...the new breed of MMA fighters are showing that wrestling is mandatory, and they are doing that since they are young as well. And the great thing about wrestling is that it decides where the fight goes.

If we want to go old school and have style vs. style (before MMA evolved and showed you CAN'T be one-dimensional), Aleksandr Karelin would dump Tyson on his head within 10 seconds.

Well, since this debate is about Mike Tyson, who is a fan off MMA, let's hear his opinion on it...

"Tyson also believes a boxer could thrive in MMA with the proper training. He thinks a boxer’s mental attitude and conditioning would be just as important as his martial arts skills in conquering the cage.

“I know 100 percent that a boxer (could win),” Tyson said. “As long as he learns how to grapple and wrestle, he could do great. You’ve got to go in there respecting the sport, and not just thinking you’re going to knock somebody out every time. It’s a complicated sport, but a good boxer has to be a great athlete anyway.”

Hmm... so Tyson (the guy we are talking about) says that a boxer can be successful IF they learn how to grapple and wrestle. Since we are talking about Tyson coming in with just a boxing background, I think the case is closed.

Oh well wrote:

Another little fad that has come and will be gone soon.

Actually the exact opposite is happening. MMA is rapidly expanding with more organizations and gyms focusing specifically for mma fighting. Viewship and participation are at all time highs with no signs of letting up. In fact, they are still gaining steam.

You're an idiot thinking mma and ufc are staged like soap opera. Mma is a combat sport just like boxing but boxing is the sport of punching. Mma is the sport of fighting.

?illegal wrote:

ufc and mma are staged like a soap opera show. boxing is a sport on the otherhand.

You're an idiot thinking mma and ufc are staged like soap opera. Mma is a combat sport just like boxing but boxing is the sport of punching. Mma is the sport of fighting.

You're an idiot thinking mma and ufc are staged like soap opera. Mma is a combat sport just like boxing but boxing is the sport of punching. Mma is the sport of fighting.

?illegal wrote:

ufc and mma are staged like a soap opera show. boxing is a sport on the otherhand.

Any given Sunday? wrote:

Could ANY UFC fighter beat Mike Tyson in his prime using UFC regulations. If so which ones?

There is almost universal consensus for the greatest MMA fighter of all time. Fedor emelianenko.

That and I think tons of other guys could beat him under MMA and UFC rules.

cro cop, Anthony rumble Johnson, list goes on...

And I'm a mike Tyson fan and he was amazing in his prime but pro boxing has different rules. Bigger gloves which provide defense. It's very different.

Tyson? MMA? His prime boxing ability? He may have done so-so against the 185-pounders. Against the 140 pound guys, I think he would have won most of the time..

Generally, a boxer cannot be more capable than an all-around fighter.