WTF GERMAN?

I have also been a long time German fan. It's undeniable the kid has talent and has potential, but that was just too much.

If the shoe really did come off, deal with it! You think the gutsy Hasay would walk off like that? No, she'd put it back on and then do her best to catch up and STILL win, or she'd run the race with one shoe!

He should have put it back on quickly and caught up in the slow opening laps, or grown a pair and run without it. Lost a huge amount of respect for him tonight.

you don't even know what happened...you might want to wait to find out...

valencia wrote:

you don't even know what happened...you might want to wait to find out...

he told us what happened. he was interviewed a minute after he stepped off.

The smart thing to do would have been for German to fall down when his shoe came off and they would have had to call it back. I see something like this happen once a year as a track coach. The problem for the athlete is it's hard to be prepared for something like that and you only have like a half second to do it and it only happens maybe once in your career.

Given his foot injuries, no chance should he have run any of that with no shoe. I would say no US based runner should try to run 3k without a shoe. Maybe 800 or so but it would be foolish to do the whole thing without a shoe.

Take the fall act hurt! Are you coach Bombay?

and those who wish that one of our most talented, but also most notoriously injury prone young runners had run an entire 3k (at the ncaa level, which in the grand scheme of what germans career is likely to entail means very little) missing a shoe need to seriously reevaluate how they look at the sport?

The way he was already cheering on Farrell within a minute or two of dropping out - it's commendable, in a sense, but it also suggests to me that he wasn't really mentally invested in his own race. If he had been, he would have been too upset to be aware of the race going on without him.

didn't hasay lose her shoe or it was almost off at the notre dame xc meet?? she still finished the race.

800mrunner. wrote:

didn't hasay lose her shoe or it was almost off at the notre dame xc meet?? she still finished the race.

little easier to run barefoot on a manicured golf course than a hard mondo indoor track

and she doesnt have a history of foot injuries

naming athletes who have finished races barefoot is not proving any points...

elton wrote:

The way he was already cheering on Farrell within a minute or two of dropping out - it's commendable, in a sense, but it also suggests to me that he wasn't really mentally invested in his own race. If he had been, he would have been too upset to be aware of the race going on without him.

He will be OK. German has always cheered his teammates. When he was winning Division 4 X races by 90's in HS he would run back and cheer on his teammates. It's not always about just German for him.

German will win NCAA 1500m outdoors.

elton wrote:

The way he was already cheering on Farrell within a minute or two of dropping out - it's commendable, in a sense, but it also suggests to me that he wasn't really mentally invested in his own race. If he had been, he would have been too upset to be aware of the race going on without him.

this is some of the most presumptious bullshit ive ever read...

just because you use or glorify one mental approach to a race does not mean that is what other runners take or thrive on...

He didn't say take the fall and act hurt. He said take the fall so that they would have to restart the race.

rojo wrote:

The smart thing to do would have been for German to fall down when his shoe came off and they would have had to call it back. I see something like this happen once a year as a track coach. The problem for the athlete is it's hard to be prepared for something like that and you only have like a half second to do it and it only happens maybe once in your career.

Given his foot injuries, no chance should he have run any of that with no shoe. I would say no US based runner should try to run 3k without a shoe. Maybe 800 or so but it would be foolish to do the whole thing without a shoe.

No U.S. based runner should try!!!!!!!!!! What kind of message are we sending here? Even if you had some kind of facts to back up this opinion, it still proves just how "soft" our toughest of runners are! Shoes/no shoes, race if you're gonna race, go home if you're not!!

I agree to see him cheering so quickly after quitting the race was alittle distrubing. He's a tremendous talent and I wouldn't suggest running without a shoe as a couple posters stated; however, quitting should have been the last thing on his mind as a competitor.

the 2 options he failed to consider once his shoe came off:

1.) attempt to put shoe back on quickly as possible hopefully ONLY losing 2-3 seconds at the most and continue

2.) attempt to put shoe back on as quickly as possible; however, if it takes more than 5 seconds then consider stopping

The pace was so slow he shouldn't have had a problem regainging the group; however, German didn't know how slow the pace would actually go out. It seems German didn't think he was in shape to win the race and once the shoe came off apparently he felt his chance at simply competing ended as well.

At least he has company with Luke from Oregon and Derrick who is no longer the man at Stanford! All 3 are tapped out and FINISHED!!!!!!! Nice I love it!

swedishbasteve wrote:

No U.S. based runner should try!!!!!!!!!! What kind of message are we sending here? Even if you had some kind of facts to back up this opinion, it still proves just how "soft" our toughest of runners are! Shoes/no shoes, race if you're gonna race, go home if you're not!!

so you really not get the difference between an african who grew up running barefoot therefore has a lifetime of toughness and development built into his feet versus a runner who grew up training in America's concrete jungles?

do you think any american could win a marathon on the cobblestones of rome barefoot? of course not...we werent brought up running that way to there is no way our feet could take it

look at gebs feet compared to those of any american and youll see the stark difference, and geb...the greatest runner of all time, doesnt buy into the stupidity of placing the "toughness" glorified by the middleaged letsrun crowd over simple common sense (see 08 olympic marathon)

Rupps shoe came off once and he put that shit back on and caught back up.

I get it. Americans wear shoes, therefore, they aren't tough enough to win races. It's pretty simple actually. Let all of us shoe wearers go climb back into mommy now, before we get our feelings hurt!