Need flats for workouts - help needed

I am the same type of runner as you and I wasn't crazy about the mana, love the Adios though.

The Asics Hyperspeed 3s are my favorite shoe of all time, I haven't tried the 4s but they might be a good bet.

Saucony Grid Type A4

blaznbison24 wrote:

Saucony Grid Type A4

The Grid Type A4 looks cool... but it looks pretty minimal. You sure it's enough shoe for longer workouts and fartleks?

If you're a fan of Adidas, then check out the Adidas Adios!

http://www.runpals.com/adidas-adios.html

]Adidas Adios

It's called the 'Fastest Shoe in the World' for good reason.

I like the asics gel piranha for longer interval workouts or tempos/fartleks. It is really light so it almost feels like a spike but still supportive enough to last through long bouts. (I even raced a half in it and it held up great).

I have the older model, but if the newer one is similar, then I'd highly recommend it.

speedstar wrote:

blaznbison24 wrote:

Saucony Grid Type A4

The Grid Type A4 looks cool... but it looks pretty minimal. You sure it's enough shoe for longer workouts and fartleks?

Yeah, you could race a half marathon in it.

blaznbison24 wrote:

speedstar wrote:

The Grid Type A4 looks cool... but it looks pretty minimal. You sure it's enough shoe for longer workouts and fartleks?

Yeah, you could race a half marathon in it.

Good to know. Maybe the Adidas Adizero Rocket would be a good choice? It looks a little more substantial than the Grid Type A4 but less of a heel/cushion than the Adios. Any thoughts on the Rocket? I probably would use it for workouts up to 7 miles in length.

The Rocket is closer to what you're looking for than the Adios. The Adios actually has more heel than the T6 does- its a marathon flat.

If you liked the feel of the T6, you'll probably find the Rocket a little... off. I looooove the T6, and the Rocket just doesn't have enough there for me. The Saucony Type A4 is a great suggestion for you though. I'm going to throw in a vote for the Puma Complete Roadracer 3. Underrated shoe, IMO. Very durable outsole, nice cushion but not too much, very flexible.

Please take my advice on this one...

get the nike zoom streak xc's.

they are light, breathable mesh upper. and have ample cushioning on the midfoot despite being only 5.4 oz

i just got them and i noticed when doing a workout on the track yesterday ( 3x 2mile avg'ing 10:05-10 ) that my mid foot was springing off the track and felt very cushy every step i took

its was a refreshing feeling. like i could really feel the energy return from these flats.

you can get them for like 50 bucks on runningwarehouse.com

best flats for what you need based on what you said

I was actually going to ask about the streak xc next. I've heard good things about it, but the very lightweight makes me a little apprehensive about using these in training. I've tried the Piranhas in the past and it left my legs feeling like jell-O (too minimal). You think the Zoom Streak XC will be that much more suitable for workouts?

newest fastwitch from saucony (only 4 mm drop)

speedstar wrote:

I was actually going to ask about the streak xc next. I've heard good things about it, but the very lightweight makes me a little apprehensive about using these in training. I've tried the Piranhas in the past and it left my legs feeling like jell-O (too minimal). You think the Zoom Streak XC will be that much more suitable for workouts?

yes, while the steak xc's are very light weight, they have a ton more forefoot cushioning than the piranhas. those shoes are more like the mizuno wave universe's in that their is basically no cushioning.

trust me on this unless u are a very bad over pronator this is the shoe to buy. get them on runningwarehouse for like cheap. use flotrakd and get an extra 15% off

Asics Hyperspeed. The best flats ever. I've tried the Adidas ones but I seemed to think they still had a higher heel drop than the Hyperspeeds. Also, the rubber on the Adidas ones tended to get kind of slippery in wet weather and wouldn't grip that well. The hyperspeeds can be used all the way through a marathon so there is plenty of cushioning.

You can't go wrong with the Adizero Pro Ekidens. They are the flattest and lightest of the current Adizero series (excluding spikes). The next best alternative would be the Rockets. I run in both. They're both awesome.

I would take a look at the saucony kinvara. It has a decent amount of cushoning and a 4mm heel toe drop.

Interesting comments on the Hyperspeed. I always liked the Gel-DS's but it has been a few years. Have you compared the Hyperspeed and the DS?

Take a look at the Saucony Kinvara. While slightly heavier than some other flats at 7.7 ounces, the Kinvaras are pretty much the most comfortable running shoes I've ever worn. The heel to toe drop is very small, only 4mm, and they provide plenty of cushioning for longer workouts.

otherwise don't wear the kinvara's as flats. they are lightweight minimal trainers.

go for something lighter and made for road racing like nike zoom streak xc's.

train in kinvaras, race in streak xcs. simple

Yeah I could never see myself doing a track workout in kinvaras, maybe some faster road running but that's about it.

When I go onto runningwarehouse and look at the T7, the most similar shoes that show up on the bottom are the Streak XC 2 and the Mayfly. I've heard the Mayfly doesn't really last that long so i'll probably try out the Streak XC and the Rocket and return the pair that doesn't feel as good.

I have run in Nike trainers before with the cushlon midsole and I love it, soft and comfortable while still feeling "bouncy" and responsive. I've heard that the Rocket is almost too firm which might be the deciding factor.