the might have fallen wrote:
Guys like Teg, Solinski and Wheathing have done very well in top level races. Rupp has yet to find his way.
What is "top level racing"? I would guess NCAA championships when you are an NCAA runner. Perhaps US champsionships? International championships?
Rupp has 6 ncaa championships (more than any of those guys) and 2 US titles. Isn't that more US titles than those other guys combined? I'm not bagging on them, I'm just trying to remove the bias glasses so people can see the actual facts. Rupp has finished 13th at the OLYMPICS then 8th at worlds and 5th at indoor worlds all by age 23. Teg and Solinsky have several years on Rupp, how do they stack up?
Teg finished 4th at worlds as a 25 year old and 13th at the olympics as a 26 year old, then 7th at worlds as a 27 year old. Rupp will be 27 in 2013. Don't think he will be upgrading his resume?
Solinsky was 7th at the US champs as a 23 year old, 5th at the olympic trials as a 24 year old, and 12th at the world championships as a 25 year old. I don't think you can compare that to Rupps resume as a 23 year old.
Wheating is just gradutating and didn't even come on until his soph year in college and is a mid distance guy so he is apples and oranges when compared to Rupp, Teg and Solinsky. But Wheating is very consistent, has excellent PR's and is racing great in Europe. He will likely do big things in international championships but as of now only has a semifinal at the olympics to his name.
It just is what it is, it's not about loving Rupp, it's about seeing clearly what people have or have not done.
As far as times go, Solinsky and Teg have had several years of racing in Europe. It took Teg until last year to get under 13:04. It took Solinsky until this year to get under 13:12. Rupp had run 13:14 already on a 200 banked track. Heck Wheating has raced more races in Europe than Rupp in the past 4 years.
This is Solinskys 4th summer of racing after college. Realisticly he's probably going to match up pretty close with Rupp from the mile - 10K at summers end and this is Rupps second summer of racing the euro circuit. Where do you think Rupp will be by his 4th summer? Keep bias out and be real. Keep in mind that I don't think there has been a year where Rupp hasn't PR'd in a couple events or had a massive PR in one event. Not too easy to do when you already have marks of 4:02, sub 8:00, 13:37 and 29:09 as a teenager, and you race in college and not europe.
There are US runners who are faster than Rupp (not by much) and there are U.S. runners who have done more at the top level (Ritz, Meb and Lagat are probably the 3) but there are no current US runners who are better than Rupp across the board from consistency to PRs to top level performances other than Lagat.
That just is what it is. You don't have to like the guy, but you can't erase his resume except in your mind.