Ryan Hall came through ten miles in 45:33 on his way to 59:43. No one has suggested Hall is taking PEDs, yet somehow Ritz is another matter. I find the willingness to question greatness perplexing. And as for Salazar's coaching, it's clear he puts his heart, soul, and time into it and cares deeply for his runners. Almost all the people he has trained have done well, but less so than one would think. Adam Goucher improved over where he was before coming to Salazar, but his PR in 5000 improved less than a second. Kara Goucher has done very well, but remember she was NCAA XC champion in 2000 and showed a great deal of promise. But still her best times on the track are "only" 14:55 and 30:55, hardly indicative of PEDs. Josh Rohatinksy and Dan Browne have trained with Salazar, and while they are good, there is nothing sensational there. Of course, Salazar has trained Rupp to excellent results, but again nothing earth shattering. Now, by citing these facts I don't mean to suggest that Salazar is not a good coach, in fact, I think he's one of the very best and most innovative in America. However, if he is loading up his athletes on PEDs, why hasn't Adam Goucher run faster than 13:10, Kara Goucher faster than 30:55, Rupp faster than 27:33, Browne faster than 2:11:35, Begley faster than 31:13, etc.? Rupp has been constantly improving, and I think many of us expect, given his trajectory of achievement, that he might get under 13 and 27 next year, but that would be consistent with what he has done so far. It's funny. When Ritz was with Hudson he was lambasted by many people for running poorly (despite 8:11 and a top ten Olympic Marathon finish). Now that he's running extremely well he's lambasted for running too well. Four of the five Kenyans who will run the World Half have run 59:15 or better, but if an American is even within sniffing distance, oh no, it must be drugs. It couldn't possibly be great ability and extremely hard work! Please.