training paces for 90+ mpw

I don't think the average pace tells you much. I hit about 7:15 on 100 mpw avg, but that's with 3 quality days and pretty slow doubles. Are you doing 7:15 day in and day out, or doing lots of doubles and easy days mixed in with quality days?

don't worry about it too much.

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average pace doesn't mean much at all

Surely it does?

You can't say that if you take two runners and one guy runs 10 hours a week at 6 min pace and the other guy runs 10 hours a week at 7 min pace that when they come to race each other runner A ISN'T going to have a huge advantage?

Well then there is the other scenario in which someone does all their easy days at 6 minute pace and the other does them at 7 minute pace but with WORKOUTS on their non-easy days.

All of a sudden that completely changes the dynamic. If that person cannot recover at 6 minute pace, the 6 minute pace isnt helping at all is it? If it takes 7 minute pace to have that person arrive at the next workout or race less fatigued, it is worth it.

In the case of OP is 6:45 any more race specific than 7:15 pace when you are trying to race around 5 minute pace? Didnt think so.

k thanks guys, that's reassuring to hear =) im sure my recover days will get faster w. the taper

Your pace should be getting faster with the higher mileage, not slower. Clearly there's something else in play here.

malmo wrote:

Your pace should be getting faster with the higher mileage, not slower. Clearly there's something else in play here.

Explain yourself malmo. Higher mileage runner needs to run slower then if they were to run a lower mileage. You dont seem to add up here.

malmo wrote:

Your pace should be getting faster with the higher mileage, not slower. Clearly there's something else in play here.

Lindgren Runner wrote:

Explain yourself malmo. Higher mileage runner needs to run slower then if they were to run a lower mileage. You dont seem to add up here.

...How dare you question the World of George!

Avg pace means nothing. How are your race performances? That's your indicator. You need recovery, the more you recover the more effective your important wo's will be. Don't fret the small stuff, big picture here.

There really isn't much difference physiologically between 6:45 pace and 7:15 pace.

Lindgren Runner wrote:

Explain yourself malmo. Higher mileage runner needs to run slower then if they were to run a lower mileage. You dont seem to add up here.

You're wrong. Aerobic training, whether it be 8, 10 or 20miles is the same pace.

Higher mileage leads to better fitness. Better fitness leads to faster running. What is "fast" to a poorly trained runner becomes easy.