Jobless graduate sues her college for $70,000

And an attendance record? What is she? 8?

themanontherun wrote:

She was paying for an education, not a job.

A job is earned, not given to you.

She is clearly an idiot.

She went to a vocational school where they promised her help finding a job. And the point isn't whether she got a job or not, it is whether the school promised her help in finding a job and then did not provide this help. Do you get it yet?

Lubbock Christian university used to guarantee graduates a job in the field of their major within 2 years of granduation or the student could return to LCU for a different degree at no charge. Don't know if this is still offered at LCU. Nice plan, while available.

But do they guarantee you find a job, or only assist in finding a job? The school can do all it can to help prepare her resume, cover letter and prep for interviews, but it is the applicant itself that finds the job and secures it.

dun runner wrote:

I never quite understood some majors people chose for university, such as history for example, and I don't mean to insult anyone here with this at all. Sure, it is probably something that you have an interest in and that is great, but how are you going to apply this? Some know how they can, others just study it because they like it but have not thought it through, or researched.

While some of those points are fair, you can use a history degree just as well as any other to learn how to write, express thoughts clearly and think critically. These are all skills that will benefit your career in the long term.

Let's face it, very few people wind up specifically using what they studied in school in their career. But just about everyone uses the broader skills and concepts they learned and apply them to their new situations.

Oh, I do agree with you there. But, did the individual choose history as a major to be able to do the above, or was it an interest and no plan? I do agree with you though. Good point.

an oldie but a goodie wrote:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2008228780_loansmain05m1.html

Tyson Hunter dresses sharply, works out most every day and can't wait to make his mark on the business world.

Hunter, 23, also happens to owe $152,000 in student loans, accumulated in four years at Boston University. He graduated last year with a bachelor's degree in business administration, and now earns $40,000 a year at a market-research company.

His loan payments soon will top $1,000 a month — the amount of a small mortgage, and about a third of his salary. If he makes the minimum payments, he will retire his student debt when he is 53 years old, having handed lenders some $300,000.

Anyone stupid enough to rack up 152,000 in student loans attending BC to get a degree in Business is an idiot. It's: 1) not and Ivy 2) out of state and 3) an indicator he didn't even try to look around to cut costs.

Some people get screwed for college (avg. debt was around 20 grand a while back), but this guy is a moron.

So much for business sense.

To the person who said she was paying for an education, not a job....no, actually, she was paying for a job. This Monroe College is more of a job training center than any kind of "general studies" college. So she may have a point.

I always worried about doing projects etc with students in my classes on student loans. You study business so that you know how to make money, among other things, and you rack up thousands and thousands of dollars on loans. I know not everyone is privileged enough to afford school or be on a scholarship, but there are many unclaimed scholarships a year. There is working during the summer semesters to make money to help lower costs and so forth.

Mr. Price wrote:

Anyone stupid enough to rack up 152,000 in student loans attending BC to get a degree in Business is an idiot.

It was Boston University, not Boston College. BIG difference!

dun runner wrote:

I never quite understood some majors people chose for university, such as history for example

how are you going to apply this?

I've heard History majors move into law school very well.

Law should be an undergraduate degree (you should be able to practice law with an undergraduate degree). I knew a girl in New Zealand who got a bachelor's in economics in two years and then got a second bachelor's in law two years after that, both from a public school. That is just amazing to me. She has been employed at a reputable law firm as a lawyer since age 23. She even took a gap year between high school and university. In this country, as I understand it, you've got people taking out $120k in loans to go to a crappy law school for three years and often end up with very poor job prospects and no apprenticeship or placement of any kind.

Rambling Man wrote:

To the person who said she was paying for an education, not a job....no, actually, she was paying for a job. This Monroe College is more of a job training center than any kind of "general studies" college. So she may have a point.

Actually, she was paying for job training not a job, so no she has no point.

Letsrunclown wrote:

Only in America can a loser sue the institution their received their education from and actually think they have a case.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32265981/?GT1=43001

Oddly enough, I kind of have felt the same way somewhat, although bringing a lawsuit against the school seems a bit much. I think most college degrees don't prepare someone adequately in proportion to the amount needed to finance the degree, and I think the university is somewhat responsible for that. We are a free market society and most college programs are pushing a weak product and it might not be a bad idea to start holding them up to their responsibility.

Does it make a difference that Monroe is a "for profit" institution like U. Phoenix (but with actual buildings!)?

My friend has a history major and works at an investment bank. Not only that, he actually survived the last 2 years of lay offs.

being sarcastic wrote:

It was Boston University, not Boston College. BIG difference!

Just curious, is one much better than the other?

Widespread wrote:

Just curious, is one much better than the other?

Depends what you want to do but BC is probably the more academically (and athletically) prestigious.

Although it is tough to find anyone to bone there, since if you got accepted, you are at the least the cousin of everyone else there.

I think she raises a pretty valid point. The biggest problems with universities is that they are sheltered from the rest of the world. They teach topics with little, to no real world implications. My senior year, as a finance major, we took a survey of our class. We asked how many people in there knew how to do their own taxes. Less than a quarter did. Less than half of the kids didn't know what the correct business attire for an interview was. Almost no one could tell us who the chairman of the Fed was. It was an interesting survey because it illustrated that a lot of kids are graduating with little to no knowledge of how the real world works. Yes, that may be because the students were lazy or ignorant, but our contention was that the school had failed them a little as well by giving them a diploma, when so many students seemed unprepared to enter the real world.