Only in America can a loser sue the institution their received their education from and actually think they have a case.
Only in America can a loser sue the institution their received their education from and actually think they have a case.
I was just about to post this.
This annoys me to the point of anger, really. Besides, she got a 2.7 GPA at a school I've never even heard of. What does she expect?
I don't have a real problem with this. I was sold a degree that I never used. The college was pushing it, saying you were guaranteed employment after graduation. It wasn't until my final term when we had a visiting professor from a nearby institution that I learned I was unemployable. I guess it's my fault. I didn't research it well enough. I never considered suing but I could be sympathetic if I was on the jury.
Fat Boy wrote:
I don't have a real problem with this. I was sold a degree that I never used. The college was pushing it, saying you were guaranteed employment after graduation. It wasn't until my final term when we had a visiting professor from a nearby institution that I learned I was unemployable. I guess it's my fault. I didn't research it well enough. I never considered suing but I could be sympathetic if I was on the jury.
So from what worthless Uni did you get your major in art history and minor in philosophy?
Probably from somewhere in Florida. I reference an earlier discussion about the lack of elite universities in that state. At the time people said there were ton's of schools outside the top 30 or so. I disagree. If you're in the top 30, you're probably not going to run the country.
ping-ping wrote:
So from what worthless Uni did you get your major in art history and minor in philosophy?
Tough job market requires that graduates adjust
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/01/BU6I18SL7L.DTL&type=businessStanford graduate John Dryden didn't have a job lined up before he got his diploma in June, but in this economy he feels lucky to have been offered a contract post.
"I look at it as a case where the glass is half full," said Dryden, 22, a business major who had an internship last summer that, in better times, would have led to a job.
"The company has a hiring freeze but they're still interested in bringing me back in the fall, not as a full-time employee with benefits but as a contractor," Dryden said, adding, "I feel very fortunate."
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Dana Lin, a recent college graduate who lives in Mountain View, said employers in this market are demanding more than a degree.
"Many jobs call for three or four or five years of work experience," said Lin, 22, who earned her undergraduate degree in business from Cornell University in 2008.
April layoff
Back then, when the college job market was still strong, she got a marketing position with a Silicon Valley software firm. But she was laid off in April. To bolster her brief work experience, Lin is doing a part-time, unpaid internship with the San Francisco startup Bright Green Talent, a recruiting and staffing agency for the sustainable energy industry.
"We did not have much of a problem taking these internships when we were in college," Lin said. "It allows me to learn new things in new areas."
At Bright Green Talent, Lin works with full-time employee Carolyn Mansfield, a 2008 Stanford graduate who found that, even then, her anthropology degree didn't impress employers. She also worked for free to gain experience, first as an unpaid media intern for the Sierra Club and later at Bright Green Talent, which hired her after a two-month trial period.
"It's about getting your foot in the door and letting employers see your work ethic and how you perform on the job," Mansfield said.
Tyson Hunter dresses sharply, works out most every day and can't wait to make his mark on the business world.
Hunter, 23, also happens to owe $152,000 in student loans, accumulated in four years at Boston University. He graduated last year with a bachelor's degree in business administration, and now earns $40,000 a year at a market-research company.
His loan payments soon will top $1,000 a month — the amount of a small mortgage, and about a third of his salary. If he makes the minimum payments, he will retire his student debt when he is 53 years old, having handed lenders some $300,000.
an oldie but a goodie wrote:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2008228780_loansmain05m1.html
"I thought 'Screw it. I'll go back, and I'll just take on debt,' " Hunter said. He doesn't regret the move for a moment, he added.
"I felt like I was striving to better myself and to reach my greatest potential, and that BU facilitated that," he said. "I wouldn't have been nearly as happy if I went to a local school."
Letsrunclown wrote:
Only in America can a loser sue the institution their received their education from and actually think they have a case.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32265981/?GT1=43001
Did you even read the article? Here's the quote you missed "She" refers to the woman who is suing the school):
"She says the Bronx school's Office of Career Advancement hasn't provided her with the leads and career advice it promises."
If the school promised her leads and career advice before she enrolled, and then didn't provide either of these things, then the school failed to honor it's contract and she has a valid case.
Although I don't agree with this lawsuit I sympathize with it and feel colleges are culpable providing all types of majors and work studies knowing that emperor doesn't have any clothes.
I my oldest daughter, who is well employed, went to an expensive private school. At a large group parent meeting for potential freshman a parent asked what I thought was very good question. He asked what percentage of students graduate with well paying good jobs. Well the speaker pretty much ridiculed the question and responded something about the graduates being successful and success being different things to each student not always dependent on salary.
Colleges put kids in majors and in "work studies" with professors who often act like they really are being trained for a specific career when professors know it just isn't going to happen.
If they really wanted to provide career counseling they should point out career opportunities based on certain majors and the actual percentage of kids to work in those areas upon graduation.
Its a sham!
She was paying for an education, not a job.
A job is earned, not given to you.
She is clearly an idiot.
But did the college sell the education as the means to get a good job? Did they misreprent what an education could do? Was it misrepresentation through omission?I don't think its a good lawsuit, I hope it makes colleges think!
themanontherun wrote:
She was paying for an education, not a job.
A job is earned, not given to you.
She is clearly an idiot.
I would argue the input versus output argument here. Did she put in enough effort into finding a job, into performing at school or into what she wanted to earn as an education?
Universities are not responsible for how the economy turns out, what jobs are available and so on. And now, with this new reputation that she has, does she think she'll be better respected in the workforce trying to find a job? I think she screwed herself more than she did trying to make a difference for other students.
getmeouttahere wrote:
If the school promised her leads and career advice before she enrolled, and then didn't provide either of these things, then the school failed to honor it's contract and she has a valid case.
bologna
But, were there restrictions or due to high demand, a slower turnover? I don't know those details, and I would guess none of you here do either.
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Tough job market requires that graduates adjust
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/01/BU6I18SL7L.DTL&type=businessStanford graduate John Dryden didn't have a job lined up before he got his diploma in June, but in this economy he feels lucky to have been offered a contract post.
"I look at it as a case where the glass is half full," said Dryden, 22, a business major who had an internship last summer that, in better times, would have led to a job.
Stanford doesn't offer a business major.
I understand where you are coming from Fat Boy. I have not been there, however, I feel that what you choose to study in university should be applicable to a field you want and hope to work in. I studied business, earned my bachelors, and am now finishing my masters. I saw business as something I could apply to a career.
I never quite understood some majors people chose for university, such as history for example, and I don't mean to insult anyone here with this at all. Sure, it is probably something that you have an interest in and that is great, but how are you going to apply this? Some know how they can, others just study it because they like it but have not thought it through, or researched.
But, Fat Boy, you have a bachelors, correct? You can use a bachelors, in general, to show employers that you can be taught and that you are able to learn.
Just graduate school. I did not look deep into, but do they mean a post-graduate diploma when they say "diploma"? Otherwise, it seems like a complete lie.
"As Thompson sees it, any reasonable employer would pounce on an applicant with her academic credentials, which include a 2.7 grade-point average and a solid attendance record."
Yeah, what a stellar GPA...
asdfsdf wrote:
Stanford doesn't offer a business major.
Maybe the guy took economics and he told the paper he studied business. It doesn't change the point of the article too much.