Rupp does the 30-40

I love how it states Pre's "record" was 5 miles, but thats only what they recorded when he did the workout.

Pre probably had it set at 5 miles because its pointless to do anymore than that.

Pre

1,500 meters 3:38.1 28 June 1973 Helsinki, Finland [2]

2,000 meters 5:01.4 9 May, 1975 Coos Bay, Oregon

3,000 meters 7:42.6 2 July, 1974 Milan, Italy

5,000 meters 13:21.87 26 June 1974 Helsinki, Finland

10,000 meters 27:43.6 27 April 1974 Eugene, Oregon

1 mile 3:54.6 20 June 1973 Eugene, Oregon

2 miles 8:18.29 18 July 1974

3 miles 12:51.4 8 June 1974 Eugene, Oregon

6 miles 26:51.8 27 April 1974

5000 meters (H.S.) 13:39.6 1969

Galen

1,500m - 3:44.39 (2005);

Mile - 4:01.8 (2004);

3,000m - 7:49.16AJR (2005);

5,000m - 13:30.49 (2007);

10,000m – 27:33.48 (2007)

Are you implying he is gay? We've been all through that: he isn't. He has a girlfriend. No gay guy would have the discipline or fortitude to run at his level.

riiiight, you mean like Carl Lewis....

Seriously, does anyone know how many days Ruppy spends in Portland VS Eugene?....like this x-c season.

Does Ruppy still take his college courses online?

Anyone know his "college life" schedule?

Oregon is probably the only school where track athletes get that kind of leeway and get to skip classes etc (something that is much more common in all colleges with sports like football, basketball)

O.o wrote:

I love how it states Pre's "record" was 5 miles, but thats only what they recorded when he did the workout.

Pre probably had it set at 5 miles because its pointless to do anymore than that.

I love it how you think you know what you're talking about. Salazar himself tried to break the record, and failed. Pre was amazing, but Rupp has been ahead of him at virtually every step of the away. Why would anyone try to argue that he couldn't break a record that Pre held. (not trying to argue who had more advantages) facts are Rupp has run faster at 10k, and looks to be moving towards being much faster then Pre was. It only makes sense that he breaks Pre's record.

That's only what they recorded, because that's only what he did.

pre was a drunk slob who couldn't even beat gay rupp.

O.o wrote:Galen

1,500m - 3:44.39 (2005);

1500- 3:43.33 (2008)

Mrr82 wrote:

I love it how you think you know what you're talking about. Salazar himself tried to break the record, and failed. Pre was amazing, but Rupp has been ahead of him at virtually every step of the away. Why would anyone try to argue that he couldn't break a record that Pre held. (not trying to argue who had more advantages) facts are Rupp has run faster at 10k, and looks to be moving towards being much faster then Pre was. It only makes sense that he breaks Pre's record.

That's only what they recorded, because that's only what he did.

Ahead of him every step of the way?? If that is the case why does Pre have a faster PR than Rupp in every single event but the 10k? An event Rupp focuses on while Pre ran it twice in his life. I don't see any reason to doubt Rupp's ability to break one of his records either, but to say he's ahead every step of the way just ain't true. Nevermind how much more competitive Pre's times were 30 years ago (I'll take 4th at the Olympics any day over what Rupp's got), his times were straight up better than Rupp's almost across the board (and that's giving Rupp the 10k, nevermind he ran it in perfect conditions against great competition, not solo in poor conditions like Pre).

Sooooo, a 40-30 workout is more improtant than a race? Keep in mind, Rupp has yet to beat Pre's PRs in the 1500/Mile, 5000m, and has had nowhere near the performances in XC. Even in the 10K on the track, Pre ran 27:43 by himself. Rupp runs 27:30-40 in races where the winner can run sub-27.

Mrr82 wrote:

Pre was amazing, but Rupp has been ahead of him at virtually every step of the away.

At Rupp's age, Pre was taking on the very best in the world. Rupp has not raised his game to that level and I do not expect him to. Anyone remember Pre's 3:56/13:04 dual meet double as a freshman? Rupp will never be able to do that.

read up more on the sport mrr82.

super high altitude Nebraska wrote:

Anyone remember Pre's 3:56/13:04 dual meet double as a freshman? Rupp will never be able to do that.

read up more on the sport mrr82.

mainly because Rupp is a senior

silly old fossil wrote:

Seriously, does anyone know how many days Ruppy spends in Portland VS Eugene?....like this x-c season.

Does Ruppy still take his college courses online?

Anyone know his "college life" schedule?

All I can say is that I went to a talk Alberto did about two weeks ago and he had just returned from a workout in Eugene. I don't think Rupp is in Portland full-time taking online courses.

super high altitude Nebraska wrote:

At Rupp's age, Pre was taking on the very best in the world. Rupp has not raised his game to that level and I do not expect him to. Anyone remember Pre's 3:56/13:04 dual meet double as a freshman? Rupp will never be able to do that.

read up more on the sport mrr82.

That's because the best in the world sucked back then. If all Rupp had to do was beat a few Europeans he would have a gold medal around his neck right now. You cannot compare the level of the sport back then to now. Now excuse me I'm gonna read up on the sport. Maybe some USA vs Soviet Union dual-meet results.

Pre took the cross country season off after the 1972 Olympics to recover mentally. What a pussy.

super high altitude Nebraska wrote:

[quote]Mrr82 wrote:

At Rupp's age, Pre was taking on the very best in the world. Rupp has not raised his game to that level and I do not expect him to. Anyone remember Pre's 3:56/13:04 dual meet double as a freshman? Rupp will never be able to do that.

read up more on the sport mrr82.

I think you misunderstood me, as i was trying to make reference to the fact that he has run faster times at every step of the way.

No where did i debate who was better against their era. We are talking about a record. Records don't care who you raced against. Pre ran 5 miles, rupp ran 6. Pre beating some of the worlds best 30+ years ago has no relevance to that.

It seems to me that 30sec/200m is probably around his 1500m pace and 40sec/200m is probably around his marathon pace / aerobic threshold.

If you adjust the times to coincide with your own 1500m and marathon times then this is a workout that you can do slower to get the same physiological benefits.

ppppoooooopppp wrote:

Even in the 10K on the track, Pre ran 27:43 by himself. Rupp runs 27:30-40 in races where the winner can run sub-27.

To be fair, Rupp won the race that he set his PR in. He wasn't dragged through 27:33 behind much faster comp, he was in the mix the whole race and kicked hard. The only 10k that Rupp has ever been in where the winner run under 27 min was at the Olympics.

oh rielly? wrote:

super high altitude Nebraska wrote:

At Rupp's age, Pre was taking on the very best in the world. Rupp has not raised his game to that level and I do not expect him to. Anyone remember Pre's 3:56/13:04 dual meet double as a freshman? Rupp will never be able to do that.

read up more on the sport mrr82.

That's because the best in the world sucked back then. If all Rupp had to do was beat a few Europeans he would have a gold medal around his neck right now. You cannot compare the level of the sport back then to now. Now excuse me I'm gonna read up on the sport. Maybe some USA vs Soviet Union dual-meet results.

You make a good point. There is no excuse for Brits not being the best runners in the world back then. They had more exposure to major international championships than anyone other nation BY FAR.