looking for someone to rabbit 5k's friday at Bucknell

Rabbits are a pox on the sport, stop encouraging such anti-competitive crap!

there are going to be plenty of runners capable of those splits in the race, why waste your money and pay for a rabbit?

because what runner who is looking to run a regional qualifier wants to have to lead the first 2 miles. Time trials are important. there is a time to run fast, and there is a time to race.

teacher123abc wrote:

because what runner who is looking to run a regional qualifier wants to have to lead the first 2 miles. Time trials are important. there is a time to run fast, and there is a time to race.

I agree for the most part. Sure, we all like to see competitive races, but essentially the Bucknell Distance Carnival has been a way for quality athletes to get some fast times (many PRs have been set here). In fact I remember people on here exclaiming disbelief in the track's distance (it's the proper length) because so many people were dropping PRs the past few years. The meet has a great atmosphere and is held at a great time of year. The weather is generally very good for distance runners.

A lot of top guys prefer not to do all the pacing work in races like this, so having a rabbit helps. It's always nice to see a ton of athletes from all different conferences show up for this meet ready to run. I'm sure this year will be no different.

But what do I know, I'm just a washed up hurdler.

Why wouldn't you just call grad Matt Forys?

Isn't he an 8:40's steepler?

Why wouldn't you just call grad Matt Forys?

Isn't he an 8:40's steepler?

5k@Bucknell wrote:

there are going to be plenty of runners capable of those splits in the race, why waste your money and pay for a rabbit?

Just curious, have you ever been to a track meet before?

What's it say about a coach who's willing to PAY runners to come tow his athletes to regional qualifiers? Yikes, how sad.

time trials not a track meet wrote:

What's it say about a coach who's willing to PAY runners to come tow his athletes to regional qualifiers? Yikes, how sad.

Sounds like a coach who gets it done to me.

Smarter, not harder...

time trials not a track meet wrote:

What's it say about a coach who's willing to PAY runners to come tow his athletes to regional qualifiers? Yikes, how sad.

You my friend would make a terrible coach...

A coach who is willing to do anything to get his athletes into a fast race with fast runners, that's a good coach.

Wouldn't you want your own coach to do everything he/she could to get you a qualifier.

The point seems to be that he shouldn't NEED to resort to rabbits. Eh, it's Bucknell, who gives a flying fvck?

BOHICA wrote:

The point seems to be that he shouldn't NEED to resort to rabbits. Eh, it's Bucknell, who gives a flying fvck?

Yeah, he shouldn't need to resort to rabbits. He should also be able to run at altitude, with wind, solo and in freezing temperatures..then he'd be tough..

Oh wait, then he'd also be watching regionals' results online

Do the stands block the wind at Bucknell? even partially block the wind?

bump - wind blocked?

whats up kasak!

oh and i dont think forys would be a good choice. he would stay way off the pace until the last 200m and then drop a 23 to kick it in. not a good way to rabbit!

I guess my whole beef with having rabbits for a college race is that it takes away from the whole "race" aspect. If you have a bunch of 14:00-14:15 guys in the same race, there's no reason that the pace should not be quick. God forbid you might have to lead the race for a lap or two.I thought the regional system was supposed to help eliminate "chasing times." I guess now instead of chasing times for nationals you're just chasing times for regionals. Great.

Swofford11 wrote:

You my friend would make a terrible coach...

A coach who is willing to do anything to get his athletes into a fast race with fast runners, that's a good coach.

Wouldn't you want your own coach to do everything he/she could to get you a qualifier.

[quote]not a good time trialer wrote:I thought the regional system was supposed to help eliminate "chasing times." I guess now instead of chasing times for nationals you're just chasing times for regionals. Great.[quote]

This is entirely true and was entirely predictable. The regionals system didn't eliminate any of the "problems" it was established to address. Everybody still flies out to Stanford to run fast rabbited races (because, surprise, kids still want fast PRs). People still chase times (but now it's lower level kids looking for regional qualifiers because, surprise, kids still want to get to the highest level meet they possibly can, whether that's regionals or nationals).

For the record, I have no problem at all with rabbits. Athletes want to run fast times. And rabbited college races are rarely "time-trials". Usually there is a great race over the last 1/3 of the distance once the rabbit drops out.

do the stands shield you from the wind?

Not really - one end of the stadium is completely open so there is a pretty significant cross wind blowing through.