Mo Greene Mile

Mo Greene would have broken 5:00. Not by much, but it would have happened.

YEa, no way he breaks 5, maybe 5:30 tops, that's when he was running 9.8 for the 100 too... No why now

9.8 x 16 = 2:36.8

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but Carl Lewis died running a 300m race, let alone a mile. He tried to set the 300m record (which wasn't even that impressive of a record), hit 250m doing fine, and then the lactate kicked in and he crawled to the line. He couldn't even handle 300 meters.

Mo Greene could only jog a mile, not run it hard. He would surely not break 5:00.

yes there is a difference between the style of a sprinter and a middle distance runner. a sprinter doesn't really know how to get into the kind of rhythm that it takes to run the mile well. they just aren't used to it and their bodies will be inefficient as such, no matter the speed they are capable of. that said, with training a sprinter could most definitely learn to run mid-dist.

Here's a scatterplot of the 100m and 1500m times of the Decathletes in both heats of felon's post. I couldn't find a correlation. The linear regression line is horizontal.

To: Mo $ Your Carl Lewis 300m analogy doesn't make sense. Do you think Mo Greene would run ALL OUT for a mile like Lewis did in his 300? No, he obviously would not. As I mentioned in a previous post, Greene would benefit from having a pacer since he would be unfamiliar with running four laps for time.

All you guys that don't think Greene would be capable of a sub 5 mile are WRONG!! I don't care if he's filled with fast-twitch muscle fiber or not!

Check out the 10 FASTEST 1500 meter times ever in the world for over 7,000 point decathletes:

1500 m

P Decathlete Nat Result Points Venue Date

1 Robert Baker USA 3.58,7 7479 Austin 03.04.1980

2 Herbert Peter GER 4.00,51 7127 Bernhausen 30.07.1978

3 Vladimir Kuznetsov URS 4.00,8 7028 Zhitomir 25.08.1973

4 Robert Fournier USA 4.01,4 7028 Sacramento 13.04.1985

5 John Gamble CAN 4.03,7 7021 Ottawa 21.08.1976

6 Dietmar Jentsch GER 4.04,1 7416 Erfurt 16.06.1979

7 Leonid Litvinenko UKR 4.05,91 7963 München 08.09.1972

8 Thomas Stewens FRG 4.06,65 7300 Brescia 22.05.1988

9 Jan Podebradsky CZE 4.07,20 7876 Lyon 03.07.1994

10 Fritz Mehl GER 4.08,08 7837 Krefeld 16.06.1979

These guys may not be 10 flat 100 meter sprinters, but they're all geared towards fast-twitch muscle fiber AND probably weigh in the 175-200+ pound range.

If a few of these guys can run the equivalent of a Sub-4:20 mile at the END of a decathlon... Greene could MOST definitely break 5 minutes for a mile, if he wanted to!

Obviously most of you have not watched sprinters run the mile. We have a 48 sec. 400 meter hurdler (currently world ranked) that trains at my school. Note that he is a hurdler (meaning he has better strength that the flat 400 guys). Every year, after base training of 1-2 miles a day with light sprints, the sprint squad runs a mile time trial. He has the record with 4:40. I have seen him run a 1:56 4x800 split as well. To think that Mo Greene, a 100 meter runner could somehow manage to beat a 3-time All-American 400-hurdler in the mile is ridiculous. He would struggle with 6:00.

You can lead a horse to water, but even if you beat it up side the head with facts and science, their pea-sized brains will shut down.

Stop huffing paint.

-There is a physiological INVERSE CORRELATION between explosive speed and endurance.

-There are THREE recognized types of muscle fibers, Type1 slow, Type 2A medium, Type 2B fast.

Someone like Webb or Wariner probably have alot of "medium". MO "fast".

Anyway, I'd guess MO, with his legs seizing up, and blood lactate off the charts (14mmol?), would have broke the tape in 5:20 ish.(that might be generous). He would then be quoted AS saying "Im (PANT PANT) never running (PANT PANT) that mutherfukker again"

I don't care if there is an INVERSE CORRELATION between speed and endurance!

If some speed-oriented, 175-200 pound-plus decathletes can run an equivalent Sub-4:20 mile at the END of a decathlon (As previously pointed out up above), after TWO FULL days of competition... I'd be DAMN surprised if Mo Greene couldn't bust a 5:00 mile!

Now he may not be able to step right up and do it cold turkey, but I'm willing to bet a LARGE LUNCH at a drive-up window that with a couple of months of training and good coaching, he could do it!

The ONLY reason he probably couldn't break the 5:00 mark, would be for ONE reason ONLY. He would probably be suffering from the infamous SADPS (Sprinters Are Disance Pusses Syndrome)!! I've seen this syndrome in MANY of my fellow athletes!

Running Dude wrote:

Now he may not be able to step right up and do it cold turkey, but I'm willing to bet a LARGE LUNCH at a drive-up window that with a couple of months of training and good coaching, he could do it!

This is the problem and the interesting thing about the question. With a couple of months training I think that is possible (I'd certainly be willing to risk the price of a combo at McD's on it). I was interpreting the question as stepping to the line cold. I also assumed he would go out too fast. I predicted not breaking 6, not because I don't think it is possible that he could run sub 5, I just think it might take a bit of practice on pacing and endurance.