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16 years ago 11/10/2007 5:01pm EST

so i don't exactly agree with my coach's training. i'm not gonna post what it is, but basically, i got injured early on in the season and didn't start training until 3 or 4 weeks in. I started at 21, went to 20, 19:24, 18:34, 18:34, and then the last two weeks posted 18:07 and 18:12 respectively. Three weeks later, after the season ended and after training the way i think my body responds best i won the local turkey trot in 17:29, running in just trainers on a hilly course covered with oak leaves, leading the whole way with temps around 35. Most of that means nothing, but is it safe to say that i know how to coach me significantly better than my coach does or is this improvement just simply because i kept running?

16 years ago 11/10/2007 5:04pm EST

re: runningfortheprize

you went from 21 minutes to 18:07 in six races. I'd say he seems to have a general idea of what's going on.

16 years ago 11/10/2007 5:51pm EST

re: midwesta

What are the girls running, 17 or 18?

16 years ago 11/10/2007 5:56pm EST

re: Comparisons

Comparisons wrote:
What are the girls running, 17 or 18?

some are even getting 16's

16 years ago 11/10/2007 5:56pm EST

re: runningfortheprize

Post what your coach gave you .... because if he can bring you from 21 to 17:29 then he is the shit! I never ran 21 in HS, but I ran a shade over 20 once as a freshman.

I got down to 16:40 as a sophomore ... you can too. Maybe even better?

Stop complaining about the hand you were dealt and play it!

Try running 40 or 50 or 60 mpw this winter, startign NOW. You will be amazed at the results!

16 years ago 11/10/2007 7:09pm EST

re: runningfortheprize

That is freaking hilarious. You think your body responds to training in 3 weeks! LOL.

I don't mean to be a dick, but your success at the 100% accurately measured turkey trot was likely due to your coaches training from the previous months.

btw, I'm not saying your coach has any idea of what he's doing...i'm just saying that you certainly have no idea about the principles of aerobic development. so from what you've mentioned, I would say it's safe to say you should continue to listen to your coach.

16 years ago 11/10/2007 7:19pm EST

re: bw

Yeah, uh, my local turkey trot calls itself a three mile course but really it's closer to 2.4...

I think unless you post your coaches training we're just going to have to say you have no idea what you're talking about.

16 years ago 11/10/2007 7:31pm EST

re: bw

bw wrote:
That is freaking hilarious. You think your body responds to training in 3 weeks! LOL.
I don't mean to be a dick, but your success at the 100% accurately measured turkey trot was likely due to your coaches training from the previous months.
btw, I'm not saying your coach has any idea of what he's doing...i'm just saying that you certainly have no idea about the principles of aerobic development. so from what you've mentioned, I would say it's safe to say you should continue to listen to your coach.

Exactly. You don't just change your training and drop your time instantly. Your current fitness is a result of all the training that you did with your team. It reminds me of guys I ran with in high school who would suddenly start busting their asses the week of districts thinking that they could make up for a whole season of slacking off. Different situation, but based on the same training misconceptions.

16 years ago 11/11/2007 6:52pm EST

re: Harry Kooter

I have that answer to all your problems:

http://stthomas.facebook.com/group.php?gid=20173691952

No I don't think you're cocky.

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