don't want to go to college...

Head straight to McDonalds and fill out an app. See how much weight you can put on in the next 4 years while I'm having the greatest experience of my life, running x-c and track in college.

DIII school

running won't be your life, have an amazing experience, and get a great education.

you're lying. you would not have run those times if you were not somewhat committed to the sport. also you wouldnt be starting posts on letsrun. you're a clown

sub 4:20 twenty does not make you a 3:45. try sub 4:05

If it is paid for go. It can't hurt you. If you want to go the entrepreneurial route take some business classes.

This seems like a no brainer.

I think you are either a total tool or you are just some bored kid, trying to come up with a thread idea.

neerunnerr wrote:

you're lying. you would not have run those times if you were not somewhat committed to the sport. also you wouldnt be starting posts on letsrun. you're a clown

actually i ran those times because i have very strong tendency to become consumed by the sport, which is exactly the problem that i'm trying to get away from

If you don't want to mortgage your sole (pun intended) for a D1 scholarship, then go to college but don't run on a college team. If you want to run in longer events/roadraces, pick up a copy of Daniels' and if you want 800/1500 pick up a copy of "Winning Running" by Peter Coe. If you can improve your listed PRs slightly, there are Olympic Development Clubs (see usatf.org under clubs) that you could run on.

But if you want to be an entrepreneur, you will need money to start and build your business. How many people will invest in or lend money to someone who doesn't have a college degree?

4:20 isn't my PR and I'm allowing for progression

Rockafella wrote:

sub 4:20 twenty does not make you a 3:45. try sub 4:05

If you are being truthful, which I dont think you are, maybe you should look into D1 schools that offer just cross country and no track if you dont want to be as consumed with running? Might find a good fit there if you can get a scholarship and only have to run xc.

1) College will almost always make you a smarter and more prepared person, no matter what you study.

2) I went to school with a lot of late30/40 somethings who were like you and regretted it down the road

3) Just about one quarter of American adults have a college degree, thus having one puts you ahead of about 75% of everyone else.

4) I know a lot of runners who quit competing around your age and lived to regret it.

5) How do you know you how good you can be?

6) Why is it that it's always the talrnted guys who have no heart? Because it comes so easily? I never ran anywhere near as fast as you in HS, but I knew I wanted to dedicate myself to this sport to see where my limits were. I got a lot faster and beat guys who had a lot more talent than I did (guys like you).

So, I suggest you save some program the time and trouble and just quit now, because you clearly lack the drive to utilize your talent and become a positive contributor to the sport. But you won't be alone: there are always groing ranks of talented college drop outs working at the local pizza place or retail outlet down the road from their old high school.

no matter what you do, you are going to get old fast. you have nothing to lose.

i rarely comment on these threads, but i just have to say this is the lamest troll attempt ever. you just inspired me to get some real work done.

College is going to prepare you for any career. If you don't go you will regret it.

But if you don't want to run then don't. Its that simple. I would say it is almost a must that you go to college but don't run if you don't want to.

Take business courses and if the "entrepreneurial route" (whatever your meaning of that it) doesn't work out you will have a backup.

What would be worse is if you don't go to school, your plans don't work out and then you have to work and go to school 5-10 years down the road.

Even the misuse of infer didn't help elevate this on the troll hierachy.

Coach D wrote:

If you don't want to mortgage your sole (pun intended) for a D1 scholarship,

Coach D, your anti D-I stance is getting old, especially since you have no data to back it up. It is what it is, an opportunity to run at a another level. Money may or may not be involved. Deal with it.

assuming you're not trolling, go to school. you'll only get one chance to be young and in college with a scholarship and run, not to mention the opportunities you'll get with networking, business classes, etc, etc. Unless your parents are wealthy you're probably going to need to get a decent job to get some experience and capital built up before starting a business anyway.

i guarantee you if you go to college and I ask you in 4 years if you'd prefer to go back to being 18 and not going to school, you'll laugh.

Runner Z wrote:

Coach D....

Agreed.

leaping lanny wrote:

...look into D1 schools that offer just cross country and no track....

I agree - look into a Little 3 school in Western New York St. Bonaventure, Niagara, or Canisius.

Thomas wrote:

If it is paid for go. It can't hurt you. If you want to go the entrepreneurial route take some business classes...

Agreed.

And I'll add that you never know how you'll develop - potentially into a very fast runner who is not consumed by the sport.

i agree wrote:

Even the misuse of "infer" didn't help elevate this on the troll hierachy.

The OP's use of "infer" was exactly right, as near as I can tell.