steve magness workout video

Here come the 4:30 miler critics. They know better than Magness.

you know, Steve Magness is magnificently talented never saying he wasn't.

he's just butt ugly to watch run. I'm sure dudes would love to go run with him, I would, many others would too.

but this B/S of posting shitty workouts on youtube, like he's god's gift or something, then saying he worked on his form, when he obviously has not, then talking into the camera like he's god...

I mean c'mon. seriously, are we even having this discussion?

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it's such a crappy workout. I mean everyone is used to running sub 60's when they are training for a 10k in XC.

I mean hell to the guy asking CU times, it's obvious that CU sucks too.

from RWTB:

2x800 w/ rest being the time it takes for their women teammate to run their 800 (so probably 2:20-25ish)

Goucher- 1:58, 2:02

Roybal- 2:02, 2:04

Ponce- 2:00, 2:17

Friedberg- 2:05, 2:05

what a bunch of crappy runners. From these times I estimated that they could run 4:11.99 for Goucher, 4:21.76 for Roybal, 4:38.81 for Ponce, and 4:33.34 for Friedberg.

Ignoramous,

The reason why CU does that workout is because they train at 6,000+ feet above altitude, thus a 1:58/2:02 stimulus is much greater than below sea level Houston. For comparison, Magness' workout at CU would have been closer to 2:08/2:12.

However, copying what the Buffaloes do is ridiculous if you are not putting in the training at altitude all season long. The Buffs enter races completely under-trained, anaerobically due to the nature of their training environment.

This workout will not prime anyone for NCAA Regionals, and I have two top 15 finishes.

"thats the best Ive ever run that workout"

"I havent even done that much speedwork"

"My form is really going to pay off"

"went out a little fast the first 200"

all these have been stated before, and we're sure to hear them again

one question: how come steve doesnt have his breathing issues in workouts, as this is much more of an anerobic stimulus than a 10k ever will be.

Also- isnt it ironic that ryan hall and steve magness were equally talented runners coming out of high school, 5 years ago?

one has punched his ticket to beijing and the other still hasnt graduated from his high school track.

Thanks for the info, I'll inform everyone that the altitude adjustment for 6,000 feet is between 11-13sec per 800m for 1600m worth of work. I think everyone will be pleased to know that qualifying just got a hell of a lot easier.

Once again, some genious discussion on letsrun.to answer things, then you can go back to your critiquing."how come steve doesnt have his breathing issues in workouts, as this is much more of an anerobic stimulus than a 10k ever will be."It has before, however in practice I generally can just stop the workout before I get to the point I do in a race. and knock on wood, no breathing problems for a bit now since I think everythings under control. Also, how "anaerobic" it is, doesn't really matter. It's not linked to being anaerobic or anything like that.

This workout will not prime anyone for NCAA Regionals, and I have two top 15 finishes.

We can agree to disagree. I realize why Colorado used it, and I know why I use it. I do little so called "anaerobic" training during CC, so it's my last anaerobic workout but without the big volume.

Peaking is a tricky thing. Vigil has his runners run a 1mile all out the monday before their big 10k race. What does a 1mi race have to do with 10k? Why would you do this on monday before a sat. race? Well it obviously has worked for him, so who cares. Similarly, I've used the 2x8 or a similar workout to peak on numerous occasions. As has been stated, I used it in HS before big miles, used it b4 my XC pr at footlocker, and I've used it in coaching other kids to PR's. So it's worked during my experiences.

It's impossible to denounce a workout based on only seeing that one workout. You have to see it in the big picture of things. That's why it is kind of stupid to bash one workout, without knowing the overall progression of the training during the season.

the form issue:

I've worked on my form. I continue to work on my form. It's not perfect, but it's not bad either. I trust my coach knows what he's doing as opposed to an internet lurker. If you want to post what you think is wrong based on a video where all you see is front shots and one side shot from a distance, go for it. I'll gladly discuss it with ya.

lastly, I don't care what this workout translates to for anyone for a mile. As has been said before, it depends on the person and the overall direction of the training. Workouts are NOT predictors. That's why you can have some guy run 10x400 in 59 w/ 2min rest and break 4, while another guy could run 10x400 in 58 w/ 1min rest, and run 4:05.

I was just having some fun with my new camera I got for my b-day. If you don't like it, don't watch it. Simple as that.

have a good day.

Good job Steve, solid workout. Are we really going to sit hear and argue form? The kid obviously has stated that he is working with a form coach, and for him he probably focuses more on foot strike then anything else. As for the reason to why he doesn't train with the team it can be put simply the new coach at UofH is an idiot. Like one posted above the travel arrangements to the Conference meet in El Paso were ridiculous. The meet might not of been at to much altitude but its enough in which the NCAA gives a 30 second conversion round about for a 10k on the track.

I would just like point out how everyone gets on these boards and throws out there ignorant critiques on why a kid would post his workout video. Why not? Steve has a good fan base here in Houston, and I like others keep up with his running. As Steve said, if you don't want to watch then don't simple as that.

I dont really spot anything wrong with his form. Can someone tell me what's so bad with it?

Just to clarify one more thing. The whole traveling to altitude thing was no ones fault. It was an innocent mistake. Coach didn't have anything to with it. We live we learn, so don't hold that against anyone. The only reason I mentioned we went up 2 days early in my blog is because I was mad at how I raced and how I felt during the race.

Naa its someone fault.... not yours but someones

I didn't notice any form issues. Qualifying for the Olympic trials is probably his main goal now. Shave a few seconds off his PR and a 3:40 is there. However, at one time people were talking about him running a 3:50 mile. That probably won't happen, but a 3:59 mile should be possible

Hi Steve,

Nice workout. You don't need me to tell you this, but pay no mind to the haters on here. Which, last time I checked hadn't run a 4:01 in high school, becoming the number six prep all-time.

I'll not get into the specifics of your great workout, but just say that I hope it lets you know something about where you're at in your training and where you're going. Best of luck with your running.

The video's not very clear and the speed seems messed up but SM's form looks good to me as it's compact and no wasted energy.

However it's a terrible session in preparation for a 10k.

He would have been better off to not do that session at all.

And you would have been better off not to do that post at all.

The frustrating thing for me is hearing how "this coach is an idoit etc." It seems that some people always blame the coaching and never own up to their own shortcomings.

if you ask me, Magness is too infatuated with training well as opposed to racing well.

I also find it hard to believe that there is a single workout done the final week before a big race that leads to PEAKING?

THAT'S bad form!?! Shit...I'd had for you guys to see MY form.

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