Reasons (besides skin color) why Wariner will someday run the 800

I could care less if he runs the 800 but i think the fact that his 200 is nothing special on the world stage, yet he's dominant in the 400 shows he could run a good 800. how fast? I'm guessing something in the Webbesque range (1:43 or so). will he run it? probably not? should he run it? naw, why would he want to? just stick with the 400, set a world record, win a few more gold medals, then start a career in porn or something.

WARINER WILL NEVER COMPETITIVELY RUN THE 800 METERS, END OF STORY

force recon wrote:

WARINER WILL NEVER COMPETITIVELY RUN THE 800 METERS, END OF STORY

Thats what they said about you and deep throating.. and you proved them wrong with even less talent.

well reasoned, well thought out. but i think if he loosed he wil abdone ship ASAP. he won't want to loose. ever.

Didn't he run a 20.1X earlier this year? That might not be winning him races but its pretty damn competitive.

I think he may eventually try an 800 or two, and he could probabyl be rather good at it if he trained for it. But I doubt he will. He is just too damn good at the 400 to take the time to train for a longer event while he is in his prime.

Stat Guy wrote:

well reasoned, well thought out. but i think if he loosed he wil abdone ship ASAP. he won't want to loose. ever.

Seriously?

The threads about why someone who is quite dominant in his event and is still quite young and is only getting better all the time should somehow switch events are the most pointless wastes of time on this message board. Without fail.

Best analysis of Wariner I've seen on this site. A third reason why the 800 would be a logical move is training. Clyde Hart's 400m program involves more aerobic running than any 400m program in history. Jeremy consistently demolishes workouts that 800m runners would call their bread and butter.

I doubt Wariner will ever seriously train for an 800. A more interesting hypothetical, IMHO, is whether he could succeed as an intermediate hurdler, given his height & ability to follow a race plan to a "T."

Not sure if JW will run a good 800,it's a longer race, granted he might be a better 800 meter man, than 200 meters.

I'd say a good 600, maybe a WR there, but no way a 1:43 type!

There's no way that is his accurate height and weight. I'm about that height and weight take a couple punds away and i'm a long willowy middle distance runner. He is somewhat diesel, maybe not like the rest of the 400 meter world. I see you're point he does have the body type, but I was always baffled by the size listings on the USATF site. Put it this way, Wejo is shorther than him by 2 inches and is listed as being heavier than him by a couple pounds and he's a marathoner!, how is that pssible. Either Wariner, wejo or all track athletes need to learn the logistics of a sclae Lesson 1 start at 0 pounds for an accurate measurement!

It is not a "logical move" for Wariner to switch to the 800. This kind of analysis is about as empty an exercise as I've ever seen. Look, with all this expertise and enterprise dispalyed here, please go out and find a cure for cancer or something, okay? The guy is doing brilliantly in the 400 and there is absolutely no reason he should switch for at least five more years. In fact, it would be ridiculous for him to do so. Enough already.

"First, most runners that consistently dominate a single event eventually want to extend their dominance to another event"

That makes perfect sense - and it was obviously what led Edwin Moses to switch from the 400 hurdles to the 800. Oh, wait, I guess he decided that winning the event you are best at is what being great is all about. Why would a runner quit racing their best event, the one that they can make the best living at, so that they can get beat in their second or third best event.

Michael Johnson is a bad example - He was the BEST at both the 200 and 400 for a long time. It is not like he switched to the 100 for a challenge.

derhdffd wrote:

I could care less if he runs the 800 but i think the fact that his 200 is nothing special on the world stage, yet he's dominant in the 400 shows he could run a good 800. how fast? I'm guessing something in the Webbesque range (1:43 or so). will he run it? probably not? should he run it? naw, why would he want to? just stick with the 400, set a world record, win a few more gold medals, then start a career in porn or something.

wow...what great logic, because wariner can't run an exceptionally fast 200m he must be able to run a Webbesque 1.43ish? Oh please...you clearly have NO IDEA about running. Another classic american post. 1.43 does not come by so readily my friend. Wariner would top out at 1.48 MAX!

My country has a guy who can run 45.44, his 200m is pretty average 20.38. I think that correlates to at least 1.45.2 given your reasoning.

Wariner has no intentions of ever running an 800m. He has said as much on several occasions.

if someone runs a fast 5k, let's say 13:30... but only can run a mile in 4:05, it is obvious he possesses a great deal of strength so would almost surely be able to run a very good 10k. the ability at the 5k distance has to come from somewhere... the same applies with wariner and the 400. he isn't a GREAT (world stage i'm talking) 200 meter runner, yet he's one of the best 400 meter runners ever... how does he make this jump? he is racing guys with superior speed every race, yet he dominates... and the reasoning has to be his strength. now, could he jump in an 800 and run really fast right now? no, because he doesn't train for the race. but he if he were to train for it, I can almost guarantee he'd run a very fast time. World beating time? Probably not. Would he be able to compete with some of the best Americans? Yes.

derhdffd wrote:

but he if he were to train for it, I can almost guarantee he'd run a very fast time. World beating time? Probably not. Would he be able to compete with some of the best Americans? Yes.

And why would he give up being a world-beater in exchange for being able to mix it up with some good Americans?

i didn't say he SHOULD train for it, you god damn moron. i just said he could if he wanted... and he won't.

[quote]derhdffd wrote:

if someone runs a fast 5k, let's say 13:30... but only can run a mile in 4:05, it is obvious he possesses a great deal of strength so would almost surely be able to run a very good 10k. quote]

what miler can run 4:05 (all-out, not out of shape) but can run 13:30? heck, i dont know many guys who can run under 14:00 but not run 4:05. of course, great 5kers can run very good 10ks. the difference in pace isnt that much (maybe 3s per lap.) but look at the 400m-800m. some guys will have 8-10s in time difference per lap. that is a HUGE difference and a much different race.