major generalization about barry

Troll-plosion.

kind of like Lance.

Similarly, white people will continue to support the criminal justice system, despite overwhelming evidence that black defendants are treated more harshly in everything from drug possession to capital murder.

lance was a different situation. the huge steroid boom wasn't around when lance won almost all of his tour de france titles. just like mcguire and sosa, it wasn't a big deal then. now that everything is coming up, most people are starting to doubt lance, and definitely doubt mcguire and sosa. this has nothing to do with race, just the timing of when everything started to happen. if lance just started winning all of his titles last year after a lot more had been exposed to the public, i guarantee more people would doubt him. get over the whole race thing.

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lance was a different situation. the huge steroid boom wasn't around when lance won almost all of his tour de france titles. just like mcguire and sosa, it wasn't a big deal then. now that everything is coming up, most people are starting to doubt lance, and definitely doubt mcguire and sosa. this has nothing to do with race, just the timing of when everything started to happen. if lance just started winning all of his titles last year after a lot more had been exposed to the public, i guarantee more people would doubt him. get over the whole race thing.

What are you talking about? When Lance was winning tours, he was under more pressure from drug accusations than any other athlete, and he endured more drug tests than any other athlete.

Barry Bonds starting using drugs in 1999, which happens to be the same year that Lance won the Tour de France. The McGwire/Sosa home run race happened in 1998. The BALCO case broke in September of 2003, and Lance Armstrong won the tour from 1999 to 2005. Your claim is baseless.

i'm not talking about when they started using drugs...i was talking about when it was a big deal with the general public...as in making headlines everyday in mainstream sports. sure, lance was accused all the time but it wasn't talked about much in america. I was trying to say, if the steroid boom (in the public's eyes) had occured when mcguire, sosa, and lance were doing so great, they'd all be bashed as much as bonds and the other cyclists are now. it was a totally different period. i'm not doubting they doped/drugged up then, i'm just saying it wasn't a huge deal (wasn't in the newspapers everyday)

Thats is the difference between Lance and Barry...Lance passed more drug tests than any man in history. Barry never took any...So its much easier to say he was guilty. I agree Lance is guilty but come on there is no chance Bonds didnt take steroids at least there is a 15 percent chance lance didnt.

Yeah I know what your point was. As I said, the BALCO case broke in 2003, and Lance won two tours AFTER the big raid on BALCO, so it wasn't in a "totally different period".

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Yeah I know what your point was. As I said, the BALCO case broke in 2003, and Lance won two tours AFTER the big raid on BALCO, so it wasn't in a "totally different period".

look at the sports headlines in 2007 compared to 2003-2004...like i said, totally different periods. almost every sports site now has some article on it about steroids. you wouldn't find that in 2003 (unless it was only about BALCO and not every sport)

I quit. I have no chance of changing your illogical mind.