Running Form--Please Confirm or Deny This

You're the same person as Matt21 who posted yesterday about this same topic right? Why did you change names? Why start a new thread, why not just add to the original one?

Thank you to Coach K, Busta Wannabe, Soothsayer, and ChiTownRunner. It's not a big deal, but could you do me a favor and say what your experience is in running? That way I can say "Hey, these guys agreed with me* and they have the expertise to back it up."

* Yes, regarding step (2), I do land on the back of my forefeet, when running barefoot. But to all appearances, I'm landing flat on my feet. Additionally, I land on my heels when wearing thick heeled running shoes, though I don't roll heel to toe. Hence, the blanket statement "Land flat on your foot."

great video btw

forcing the issue wrote:

And to the rest of you, I'm not actually seeking a solution. I FOUND the solution on my own, and am presenting it to you in my hands.

Finally, a new Messiah. I'm breathless with anticipation.

Surprised Jhuffman hasn't chimed in about the joys of POSE yet

forcing the issue wrote:

Bad connection, you seem to be offering serious opinions. Which I appreciate. But can you present any credentials? I don't technically agree with you about Pose. Everything I've seen has pointed to Pose being an alternative, legitimate form, in spite the cult that surrounds it.

And to the rest of you, I'm not actually seeking a solution. I FOUND the solution on my own, and am presenting it to you in my hands.

Presently working on a masters in biomechanics and have been an assistant to one of the top sprint coaches in the world.

Pose has some legitimate good things about it, but in terms of the traditional views, it misses the overall picture.

I don't like to say that it is right or wrong, because I think we overestimate our knowledge of the complexity of the human body. What we now KNOW to be correct, may be proven wrong in the future. That's why I say Pose, chi, yessis work, are all off from the currently accepted views on biomechanics. In addition, they differ from what is being taught/used by successful sprint coaches in terms of mechanics which I think is the biggest thing. Because biomechanics can tell us how things SHOULD work, but the best proof is if it helps the vast majority of runners improve (not just one or two, because then genetics can supercede bad coaching/teaching).

I'm curious as to what you mean when you say that Pose misses the big picture. I know a few amazing distance runners who naturally run something akin to Pose.

More on topic, can you evaluate the form that I described? I'm not sure what you meant with your initial reply of "Your foot should NOT extend in front of you or paw at the ground."

THE KEY is to always run with your weight a bit in front of you. Almost to the point of feeling like you are falling forward. This will case gravity to do some of the work for you and actually "pull you forward."

Try it. It works.

Forcing the issue,

1.)I avoid at all costs.

2.)I land on the Ball of the foot.

3.)This one is a little fague, however I pull my foot to my hip once my GCM has past over the support(BOF).

Credentials-

http://www.posetech.com/services/JeremyHuffman.html

Jhuffman wrote:

Forcing the issue,

1.)I avoid at all costs.

2.)I land on the Ball of the foot.

3.)This one is a little fague, however I pull my foot to my hip once my GCM has past over the support(BOF).

Credentials-

http://www.posetech.com/services/JeremyHuffman.html

[/quote]

I know...I've seen your time trial videos. When you say "1.) I avoid at all costs" I assume you mean you avoid bringing your leg out in front of you unless you're going so fast that you can't help it...as shown in your 800m time trial here:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2247423061285311512&hl=en

What's confusing to me is that while watching the video, it's not immediately clear whether you're running my way or the Pose way....I think I can tell that for the most part you are indeed doing Pose strides, but in particular there's this one stretch where you're rounding the bend at 300m and I keep thinking to myself that you're doing my sort of stride.

Forcing the issue,

How would you describe your sort of stride?

How would you describe your particular Method of running? and how does it differ from the Pose Method of running?

Jhuffman wrote:

How would you describe your particular Method of running? and how does it differ from the Pose Method of running?

it's faster?

In my Matt21 post a few days ago, I explain it in detail: http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=2025490