what will happen: Harry Potter dies BUT...

Wes Mantooth wrote:

"one cannot live, while the other survives"

This is a complete rip off of the Matrix where Neo and Smith are connected and thus Neo must sacrifice himself to finally destroy Smith.

Really both are just a play on traditional archetypes. Think of Paris and Helen, Galahad when he drank from the Holy Grail, Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader. In order for everybody else to survive their always has to be the one person who dies. I believe most people refer to said character as a "Christ Figure" because they have to sacrifice themselves so that the rest of the world can live. It goes back much further than The Matrix trilogy.

Ok, I like this explanation better -- grandfather it is. This also provides the REAL explanation for harry's similarities with voldemort, and it also tells us why harry's father was such a little b**** when he was in school.

except that the real reason for harry and voldemort being similar is is because pieces of themselves were transfered to each other when Voldemort tried to hill Harry. It has been said many times before in the books. and if voldemort and harry are somehow related I will lose all respect for JK Rowling and the book series. I mean come on, dont they have Star Wars across the pond?

Unrated,

I cannot possibly see Voldemort as Harry's Grandfather. First off Tom Marvolo Riddle did not have kids. He is also not old enough to be Potter's Grandfather. Sirius Black ran away from home at 16 and stayed at the Potters' from time-to-time. To quote Sirius, "I was always welcome at the Potter's". He was the same age at james Potter, they were in school together.

The time line makes the Grandfather link totally impossible.

I still say Dumbledore transferred his 'greatest wizard in the world' powers for the purpose of good, to either Harry, Neville or Snape - as Professor Snape may well be actually good.

Voldemort and Lucius bite it, as does Ron or Hermione but not both.

Potter will also be too young to be headmater, whereas Snape will be perfect if Dumbldores powers are transferred to him.

On another point, I can't see Ginny copping it, because, for the story to end on a good note, Harry would likely have to have a love interest. Not absolutely nesessary, but pretty much. Unless the book is 2,000 pages, I can't see him finding another and marrying etc.

"one cannot live, while the other survives".

I think it was "neither may live, while the other survives." This suggests both die. In book 5 when Harry asks Dumbledonkey about this he stubles around the question. Both die, they are connected. Remember, Harry is a Christ like figure, the savior. However, he will more then likely be brought back to like by some special magic.

Will Serius or Dumbledonekey return to help Harry defeat Voldemort? That is the question...

Well re-stating what I said about Dumbledore's powers being transferred to Harry or (Neville or Snape) there would be no need to twist up the story that badly and have Dumbledore return.

I can see Sirius returning in some capacity - you can twist that one around by saying he slipped into THAT vail but no one confirmed absolutely that he experienced death.

So Harry is a Christ-like figure, but JK Rowling has the power to change the whole martyr-savior-thread, which seems to be the prevailing theme in many stories.

But yes there must be martyr, hasn't Potter been a martyr throughout?

I say he lives!

The Prophecy as written by Professor Trelawny in book 5:

The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approaches…born to those who have thrice defied him, born as the seventh month dies…and the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal, but he will power the Dark Lord knows not…and either must die at the hand of the other for neither can live while the other survives…the one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord will be born as the seventh month dies…’

- Order of the Phoenix, ch 37, The Lost Prophecy

Either must die....so one will...one will survive.

:o)

i say harry is a horcrux and must sacrifice himself in order for voldemort to die. because dumbledore told harry that voldemort hadn't made all of the horcruxes when he went to kill harry, therefore he could be the 7th and final horcrux.

just a thought.