Purdue position

kathy casey coaches mens and womens cross at university of indianapolis...

Just a few to add to the list:

Laurie Henes - N.C. State

Craig Lake - Brown

Annie Bennett - Wake Forest

Maribel Souther - Dartmouth

Kelly Cox - JMU

Gwen Harris - UPenn

serious question wrote:

This is a serious question (which may be a mistake on this message board) but could you name some of the young female distance coaches out there, or ones that seem to be doing a good job. We just might not have heard of them and I would like to follow how they do.

thanks.

The key point is young. I am sure the listed women don't want there age revealed, but by young I would go under 35, maybe even under 30. What is being listed a women who are almost or well over 40 years old.

Who is out there who is out there like the SMU XC coach or someone well under the radar...

Kelly Cox is not the distance coach at JMU.

bump

How many Purdue coaches were at our state meet?

Why would Hunt leave UVa for Purdue? He has good resources, a building program, supportive relationship, and a weaker conference/region. Purdue sounds like a downgrade to me.

[quote]Mr. Obvious wrote:

Why would Hunt leave UVa for Purdue? quote]

Because he doesnt actually COACH at UVA!

Illinois coach wrote:

How many Purdue coaches were at our state meet?

For XC or T&F - Girls or Boys. If you are talking about the Boys' State T&F Meet, they were probably coaching their kids at the NCAA Regional...

Who freaking cares? What is your point? There are plenty of state meets to go to besides Illinois...

To my earlier question, I would be interested in those young female coaches in their early to late 20's. Basically, some of the aspiring young professionals who are doing good things. There are always lists on here about the young men coaching, it would be good to know the young women.

thankyou.

Agreed.

Name m one person that Brad has actually coached at UVA? He is Dunn's GA-level assistant. At Purdue he would have the ability to actually coach a group and not just drive a van. As poor as Purdue is, I am sure they have resources equal to UVA.

I Dont care either, but I'm guessing the question has to do with the allowable 2 coaches allowed at a single sex meet.

How is Purdue poor?

I remember when Brad used to fetch me my Chipotle' fajita burrito for lunch and sometimes I would let him keep the change.

Those were fond memories. Thanks Brad. See ya T J

xoxoxo

Bobby

Conner Holt--assistant women's coach at Oregon State--heard he was offered the job. 10k, Indoor 5k record holder for Oklahoma.

From Equity in Athletics website

http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/search.asp

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School:

A) # of male track participants:

B) Operating expenses for men's track: (rank within Big Ten)

C) Total Operating Expenses for men's sports: (rank)

D) Total Operating Expenses for men's & women's sports

E) Ratio Men/Women Expenses for all sports

F) Ratio of men's track budget to total men's budget (%): (rank)

Note: data is from 05/06 school year

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Purdue:

A) 85

B) 114K (8)

C) 3.6M (8)

D) 5.6M (8)

E) .64

F) 4.0% (6)

Virginia:

A) 119

B) 180K (5/6)

C) 5.4M (4/5)

D) 7.3M (4/5)

E) .74

F) 3.3% (7/8)

Purdue is at the bottom of the Big Ten in operating expenses for all sports. Their relative spending on men's track as a percent of their overall budget is consistent with the rest of the big ten, however. UVA would fall in the middle of the Big Ten in total expenses. UVA already has an operating budget for the men's program that's 50% greater than Purdue's and is a smaller % of the overall budget. UVA is likely to increase spending on men's track before Purdue does.

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For data geeks the rest of the Big Ten is below in no particular order.

Indiana:

A) 127

B) 216K (3)

C) 3.3M (9)

D) 5.0M (9)

E) .66

F) 6.5% (1) - Indiana was due to reduce track expenses!

Illinois:

A) 126

B) 136K (10)

C) 2.9M (10)

D) 4.4M (10) - Not enough money. Better football team required.

E) .66

F) 4.7% (5)

Wisconsin:

A) 118

B) 384K (1)

C) 7.6M (1)

D) 10.6M (1)

E) .72 - Football powerhouses have huge football expenses

F) 4.0% (6)

Iowa:

A) 125

B) 147K (7)

C) 6.0M (3)

D) 8.1M (3)

E) .74 - Football powerhouse

F) 2.5% (10) - Men's track clearly isn't a priority

Michigan:

A) 51 - ** Ouch!

B) 311K (2) - They aren't afraid to spend on the few they have

C) 5.5M (4)

D) 8.0M (4)

E) .69 - lowest ratio of football powerhouses

F) 5.7% (3)

* Walking on the team appears to be a thing of the past. Either your scholarship material or not on the team. As a former walk-on at Michigan, that's really disappointing to see.

Michigan State:

A) 84

B) 142K (9)

C) 4.7M (5)

D) 6.9M (6)

E) .68 - Wanna-be football powerhouse

F) 3.0% (8) - You can't fund football like a powerhouse and still support the other sports if you don't have the revenues

Ohio State:

A) 94

B) 199K (5) - ** last budget under Russ Rogers

C) 7.4M (2)

D) 9.9M (2)

E) .75 - huge football receipts and expenses

F) 2.7% (9) - **

** I would bet this has changed since the Men's/Women's programs were split and Robert Gary took over as Men's head coach.

Penn State:

A) 120

B) 173K (6)

C) 4.6M (6)

D) 7.2M (5)

E) .64 - lowest ratio of all football powerhouses

F) 3.8% (7)

Minnesota:

A) 135 - biggest team in Big Ten

B) 208K (4)

C) 3.6M (7)

D) 5.7M (7)

E) .63

F) 5.8% (2) - Men's track seems to be a priority

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For those of you still reading, here are the football numbers (Revenues/Expenses/%):

Ohio State: 60.8M/32.3M/53%

Michigan: 50.4M/12.8M/25%

Penn State: 40.6M/14.1M/35%

Wisconsin: 34.3M/12.3M/36%

Michigan State: 33.6M/15.9M/47%

Iowa: 31.8M/20.8M/65%

Purdue: 22.2M/11.2M/50%

Illinois: 19.1M/8.4M/44%

Minnesota: 16.7M/7.9M/47%

Indiana: 15.4M/10.6M/69%

Virginia: 19.6M/18.1M/92%

I'm not sure what's included in "Expenses" but I'm guessing that expenses for new facilities might be included to some degree since Virigina's men's basketball team had expenses of $22M and revenues of only $11M. I know they just build a new arena...

I thought it was interesting that Indiana hired a just-graduated female runner from Michigan. Jack needs to look at doong something similar from a proven distance powerhouse team. Not to just focus on Michigan's women, but Karen Harvey was immediately successful coming stright into the Big 10!

Your stats are interesting--but as a former runner, I have some insight as to why the operating budget is lower than other Big 10 schools (and likely why it's lower than UVA). Purdue does not take a percentage of student tuition and put it toward the athletic department budget. All (significant) athletic department funds come from:

1) Revenue Sports

2) Sponsorships

3) Conference Funds

4) John Purdue Club member donations

One of the reasons our facilities are not as nice as others, our budgets aren't as big, or our recruiting has suffered, is we simply have never had the big budget as other schools. Purdue has made an emphasis on keeping tuition in the lower half of the Big 10, which among other things, maintains the current system of no tuition for sports.

And bump--I'm really curious to hear who will end up in the position.

I've talked with someone from Purdue and they say it's official.. CONNER HOLT is hired to oversee the distance group at Purdue.

Holt is an Irishman with University of Oklahoma records in the indoor 5k and outdoor 10k.

Will this hire help turn their lack-luster distance program around?