I use my neighbor's wireless, and she is OK with this. I'm worried that she can see what sites I go to, though, and I don't mean letsrun. Can she find out?
I use my neighbor's wireless, and she is OK with this. I'm worried that she can see what sites I go to, though, and I don't mean letsrun. Can she find out?
if she sets up her wireless router to log traffic, yes. chances are, she won't do this. if she does, she's creepy anyway.
PRON HIDER wrote:
I use my neighbor's wireless, and she is OK with this. I'm worried that she can see what sites I go to, though, and I don't mean letsrun. Can she find out?
Unless she's VERY VERY Internet-Tech savvy, she probably will never know that you're using her wireless to begin with, much less be able to know what sites you're visiting.
If she isn't stupid she will log traffic - the OP could be downloading kiddie porn. If she isn't logging it, her ISP is. There was a guy who was recently busted for kiddie porn going to an IP address that was linked to his account. His defense was that he had an unsecured network connection and it could have been someone else in the neighborhood - but he was the one who had to go to court.
twice a runner wrote:
if she sets up her wireless router to log traffic, yes. chances are, she won't do this. if she does, she's creepy anyway.
SO, it sounds like the average person isn't going to have any clue what I'm doing on their connection? Good. I look at some nasty stuff...JOKING.
Great thing about living in an apartment complex is people with unsecured wireless routers...:)
Alan
WiFi Bandit wrote:
If she isn't stupid she will log traffic - the OP could be downloading kiddie porn.
I have heard of this but never understood it. Why would someone bother to download porn instead of just "enjoying" it online?
To make copies? Print it out? Send images as e-mail attachments? Or maybe to come back and savor it all later with proper toys in hand?
Do porn sites change so frequently that you have to download and save their stuff because you'll probably never see it again?
Wondering Star wrote:
I have heard of this but never understood it. Why would someone bother to download porn instead of just "enjoying" it online?
To make copies? Print it out? Send images as e-mail attachments? Or maybe to come back and savor it all later with proper toys in hand?
Do porn sites change so frequently that you have to download and save their stuff because you'll probably never see it again?
Everything you look at online is downloaded to your computer. All the pictures, text, etc, is loaded on your machine before it's displayed. It may (or may not) be flushed from your internet cache folder, but it's still there when it's displayed. If you save it off somewhere is a different story.
Now the thing people don't often take into account is when they're "borrowing" someone's wireless they are on the borrowers network and are thus visible to the borrower. If you aren't careful about securing your own machine there's nothing stopping the person whose wireless you're borrowing from snooping around on it.
This technique is often used for sting operations. Put up an open router somewhere where you suspect someone is trying to hack a network, wait for the inevitable dupe to connect, tunnel into their machine while they're sending spam, shipping porn, etc, and figure out who they are.
Is a borrowed wireless connection any less safe than say your local ISP? Like when you are using personal information ie., checking bank accounts and on-line purchases?
dromia wrote:
Is a borrowed wireless connection any less safe than say your local ISP?
In a word, yes.
dromia wrote:
Is a borrowed wireless connection any less safe than say your local ISP? Like when you are using personal information ie., checking bank accounts and on-line purchases?
Yes, massively. When you connect to a wireless router the person that owns that router has a simple web interface easily available to them to look at your traffic. In effect they are the ISP and can do what someone at the ISP could do. When you connect to the ISP through a cable modem or DSL, there is a piece of hardware between you and the ISP. If you're smart, you have a router stuck between you and the Cable/DSL modem. When you connect to your neighbor's wireless it's no different than running a wire staight from your system to your neighbors.
Great info. Sure they can see what websites your are visiting, but can they actually see your account number, SS# or various passwords?
Keith Stone wrote:
Everything you look at online is downloaded to your computer. All the pictures, text, etc, is loaded on your machine before it's displayed. It may (or may not) be flushed from your internet cache folder, but it's still there when it's displayed. If you save it off somewhere is a different story.
In other words, when people say they're downloading pornography, they're not actually sitting there downloading and saving 100mb porn videos, they may be just looking at something streaming? When I look at a streaming video (not porn, of course--not that there's anything wrong with that), it doesn't save itself in my cache at all.
Wondering Star wrote:
In other words, when people say they're downloading pornography, they're not actually sitting there downloading and saving 100mb porn videos, they may be just looking at something streaming? When I look at a streaming video (not porn, of course--not that there's anything wrong with that), it doesn't save itself in my cache at all.
Streaming stuff is cached too. Not very usable when it's there, but when you start looking at streaming video you'll see a message about "buffering" it's caching it. It's often circular, so it doesn't fill up your hard drive but it's still there. Someone watching your connection aren't going to see much, but someone with access to your cache could rebuild a chunk of the video.
so it isn't on your hard drive, if you are on a regular PC can it be found if someone goes looking? yes pron
my harddrive/windows crashed not long ago. i took it to a tech although i am fairly good with computers. the tech left his burned cd of about a 100 recovery programs in my drive. I decided to toy around and try to recover more, hoping that he was just too lazy to get everything back that i lost. I was surprised to find old old stuff that i had long ago deleted on my computer. i'm talking 3 -4 years old..
Bottom line, unless you completely reformat it's always there.
How do you see what people are using your connection?
everything last wrote:
Bottom line, unless you completely reformat it's always there.
Simply reformatting your computer still won't eliminate all traces of your personal information. You would need to use a secure wipe utility such as DBAN...
http://dban.sourceforge.net/