USAs qualified list changed...

Yeah can someone please explain that bs. What are these guys' pr? they are screwing over 3 athletes that deserve to be there rather than them.

qualified: Ghebray 13:42.16

qualified: Gabrielson 13:51.81

pending:

Thomas Morgan 13:36.91

Stephen Haas 13:38.51

Scott Bauhs 13:40.63

Jimmy Grabow 13:44.04

Sean Quigley 13:49.62

Jeremy Johnson 13:50.85

James Hower 13:51.72

I just got off the phone with John Chaplin. They filed official appeals with whatever excuses they have yesterday and got in. I was on a plane all day yesterday and didn't know about any appeal process (not that I really have any grounds to appeal anyways). Its all in the literature that the USATF provides so I'm out of luck. Its beginning to look like there is some method to the madness but I am still completely lost. There has to be a better system than the one that is in place. Now I have to do the same thing every athlete does when they are cut, go home, work hard, and try again next year.

Read their rules online and follow the process; it works, but you have to educated yourself!!!

i'll just plan on getting 10-15 seconds faster and i won't have to worry about it.

I'd like to try to "educated" myself. Can you point me to the rules that allow an appeal where a 13:51 guy gets in but a whole list of others who are faster don't? I just looked through the info on the USATF site and I couldn't find mention of the appeal process that can be filed.

Scott, run next week at IU.

There are plenty of people who are also screwed by USATF who are gonna be there. 1500s and 800s all week and apparently a very solid mile on Wednesday night.

Plenty of people from the USA meet will be there.

personally I don't see why they don't just put all the guys on the pending list in the race. I don't really see how it hurts the race. Especially considering some guys will likely drop after the 10k.

Gabrielson has run 13:34 before and has been on numerous world cross teams. that might have something to do with him still getting in. Just like Jorge Torres got into the 10k last year with no qualifying time. Im not sure of the other guys situation.

Regardless, they should let more than 21 people into the 5k. having 5 more people in that race will not effect the outcome up front. might as well let these guys have another shot to race in a quality field and continue to develop athletes like USATF always says they want to do.

They let gilliat in because he told them that he was likely going to drop out or run like 1445 like he has been doing lately, so he would be out of everyone's way.

what a joke.

Doesn't seem right. If they allow a 13:50 guy in, then they should automatically allow all the guys who missed the cutoff, up to that person's time. It's only fair.

Why not run the 10K, Scotty?

unfortunately, here's the appeal link

http://www.usatf.org/events/2007/USAOutdoorTFChampionships/athleteInfo/rules.asp

too bad for these guys. usatf needs to change something. it doesn't seem right.

That's how they got in. Their check cleared.

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That's how they got in. Their check cleared.

Chaplin likes to play god. I suspect anyone that is close (and does not mess up rounds/lanes in a laned race) gets in if they bow to Chaplin and kiss his ring.

lame.

I believe Gabrielson was given consideration due to being a member of World Cross - as for the University of California kid I do not know what his basis for petition was....

I have a very hard time, however, believing that Culpepper, Ritz, Rupp, etc. will toe the line in the 5,000m. Ironic that Morgan and Haas just got USATF $$ to go to Europe and they are denied entry into their own events while 2 men with slower qualifiers get to toe the line. USATF politics continues to rule

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This is the same horseshit every year. The worst part is the DNS. How can anyone not start a 10k when you declared that you were going to run it 3 days ago? Do these athletes realize that by doing this they are keeping others out of the meet?