Mile race at Nike campus Thursday

someone wrote:

Great! Then use Brooks and Asics. Don't think Nike is going to go broke without you. I will use Nike because I like their flats, spikes, and trainers.

I am sure you feel this way as well, but your opinion really means nothing to me.

YOU'VE BEEN NOMINATED FOR THIS WEEK'S "COMPLETELY MISSED THE POINT" AWARD!

So, you're posting to tell me that you don't get it and that I'm right about it being primarily about marketing? Why are you telling me things that I already knew? Save yourself the trouble and next time just click "return to index".

When people would come into my shop and tell me that they don't want to see Nike shoes, I would ask why. Thinking that they did not fit their foot, or had a bad experience, etc.

The response most often given to me was: "I don't like their labor practices".

My response was always: "You know the only shoes I have in the store that are not made in the sweatshops are these $125 New Balances made in the US"

Almost every single customer replied with oh really? Well, maybe I will look at the Nike too then. If they did not, then they were just a big hippocrate.

Now I personally like Nikes a lot. They seem to fit me the best. I don't care about anything but that. Nikes work for me, and if they don't work for you fine.

I personally think that Asics suck and I don't appreciate their business practices from my experience with them. I wouod wager tha everyone on this board has a different opinion about each of the shoe companies and why they are evil.

I call b.s on you. You are not a store manager, and asics don't suck. Keep tooling for Nike, you SOB.

RW editors just picked Asics Culumus in this months issue.

RW picked the Kayano XII as its editors choice in 2006.

RW awarded Asics new gel technology as the best innovation in 2006.

Fleetfeet also gave Asics some award last year too.

I know that RW is for penguins, but given some objective stanard Asics is pretty good. I am not saying they are the best but they don't suck and are better than Nike.

Lets get to the point - by and large the trade mark difference between a HS runner and post HS runner is the shoes. HS kids love the Nikes. College runners usually go with what they get, if someone still true enough to the sport to be running post-collegiality you most likely they are not wearing Nike trainers.

This phenomenon is due to Nike marketing to HS runners and then people discovering that Nike sucks and there are better trainers out there.

NIKE SUCKS

FORMER MANAGER is a PHONY

after all this.... WHAT TIME IS THE RACE?

I know a guy that was sponsored by Saucony that actually ran easy runs in Nikes - true story. He told me that on race day or if he was with other runners he would wear Saucony, but when he ran by himself he would run in Nikes. I am trying to remember the name of the shoes. They are lightweight cushioned shoes, not the Pegasus...

to NY Runner, it must seem so easy to debate when your response is just to say that the other person is lying. Makes your job a lot easier.

Some facts about other running companies, I looked for two minutes so I am sure you can find more about all companies

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Major sportswear companies have said they are reviewing a report by Oxfam that said that, in the approach to the next Olympic gains, the companies were still benefiting from labour from workers that are being denied basic rights.

The companies targeted by the report include Puma, Umbro, Fila, Adidas, Reebok, Nike and ASICS. It claims that their business methods, including the cutting of order times and the reduction of prices, have led to suppliers cutting wages and forcing staff to work unreasonable overtime hours - often for little or no pay.

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Feb 2 2006 New Balance goes to China. See this NICNET report on labor conditions

http://www.nlcnet.org/news/china/pdfs/Li_Kai_Report_Web.pdf

New Balance claims "Made in the US" label, but this is a deal struck with a state legislature; actually most of New Balance production is outsourced. If you contrast what New Balance claims as its ethical code, with the stage-managed cheers, the ways they union-bust, hire underaged women workers, etc., with this report you will see the difference bewteen IMAGE STORY CONTROL and the COUNTERSTORY resistance of the workers.

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I love the great evidence NY runner brings to the table. NY runner find an article or anything that supports you that is not out of rw also know as over weight joggers world.

I am sorry but I dont know what time the race is tomorrow but if anyone finds out I would love to show up.

NY runner you are a dumbass. These companies are leaving this country to make products because our crooked government takes money to allow them too. The unions have nothing to do with it. The unions make sure that the employess actually get paid a descent salary and that the entire factories aren't full of underpaid, hardworking, illegal immigrants. Big businesses that dont have unions dont hire US citizens usually, except to be bosses, because then they have to pay them what they are supposed to be paying them.

i don't care about companies leaving the country. Nike makes bad trainers, their gear is overrated, their watches suck and their road flats aren't that good.

I hate their marketing and the manner which they hold running events. I don't appreciate their support of OU sports. I am sick of hearing about OU football and basketball and of course running. See the thread about the twilight meet?

Do I am not running the Mile tonight in Beavertown, it doesn't look like anyone else is because no one knows the time. Maybe guys will drop out at 1200m ala last night in Eugene

NY Runner wrote:

I hate their marketing and the manner which they hold running events. I don't appreciate their support of OU sports. I am sick of hearing about OU football and basketball and of course running. See the thread about the twilight meet?

OU? Oklahoma? And all this time I thought you were talking about the UofO!!! It's University of Oregon, UO, or UofO....

You don't like their support of Duck athletics? Why? You do realize they are also involved in OSU (that's Oregon State University) athletics as well don't you?

Nike is an Oregon company - supporting Oregon sports.

Do you realize how many track programs (from HS to college) they have contributed to? Probably not.

Listen, you have your agenda - it's obvious to everyone on here....go back under the bridge you troll.

What about the damn race??

What time does it go off and when can we see some results?

The Employee Race starts at 4:50, and the Elite Race starts at 5:00.

I assume that is West Coast time... Looks like I have to wait until tonight to get some results.

Hope they roll - that's a fun track.

NY Runner wrote:

i don't care about companies leaving the country.

You should. And you will if something happens that impacts the flow of goods from overseas factories. The US has deeply hurt it's ability to produce anything itself. Buying products from elsewhere is fine, until you can't buy them.

so what happened?

Goucher won in 3:56, three others under 4:00 is all I know; Kara Goucher ran 4:30. There is another thread on this.

What a bunch of inbred Oregonian belly-aching on this one--jeezus!

not impressed with Oregonians wrote:

Goucher won in 3:56, three others under 4:00 is all I know; Kara Goucher ran 4:30. There is another thread on this.

What a bunch of inbred Oregonian belly-aching on this one--jeezus!

I might note that NY Runner obviously isn't an Oregonian....but IS the biggest belly acher.

And for the inbred Oregonians, you need to head quite a few miles south of Eugene to find that....