Doubling

be carefull you done suffer burnout too early.

if ok with your coach try 2 or 3 double sessions per week but make sure you have a days rest 1 in 8 anyway.

morning runs should only be 5-6 miles steady also

make sure you get to bed early and take some liquids before setting out in morning

try to alternate runs over road and grass.

can you get a training partner to help you on those cold dark mornings?

hope this helps- you must be dedicated if you are considering this at 16 yrs- imagine when your 20plus!

You're not too young at all. At this stage you should really not think of your morning runs as workouts. They're really just shakeouts. It helps to have a few friends to run with and it's also easier to get out of bed when you know that you're just going for an easy jog.

An added benefit is that morning running wakes you up better than any cup of coffee.

athleticsfreak: IMO you need to relax on the "informative" postings...

Your advice is not usually pertinent - you are supposedly a 17 year-old 19 min 5k runner who is telling people to secretly binge eat but not tell their coaches, and offering random advice on every thread as if you were a veteran.

Chill out. Step back. Enjoy some good advice from some of the more experienced crowd, and realize that whatever you reply could be taken as fact by some naive 16 year-old.

Don't take this as an attack, as I know I am guilty of posting some stupid stuff sometimes.

Also, if you are trolling, then kudos - you got me.

does your school or club have any training camps or

training weeks. These are usually the first introduction of

younger athletes to "doubling".That way you can see how you handle it before it becomes a permanent fixture in your training programmes. For me it's rare under 17 / 18

on a regular basis but camps are OK -2 or 3 times a season.

At 16 you've still got lenty of studies and other activities to fill in your time.

My girl (17) but pretty fast anyway only doubles at 2 or 3

camps a year. Doesn't seem to hold her back though.You can

always put in some extra stretching,plyometrics,drills

if you find you have too much time on your hands.

At least experiment with it. Some people respond well, others don't. Don't have to be huge runs. 3-4 miles easy.

My body seems to respond well to doubles, physically. My mind responds well, mentally. Just something about running twice a day every other day for me which makes me feel fit... and seems to make me fit too.

- Not a star runner

ive dealt with it when i did it warm weather training.

Ime thinking about doing it on mondays wednesdays and saturdays

Monday 2 runs

Tuesday session

Wednesday 2 runs

Thursday session

Friday rest

Saturday am session pm run

Sunday 1 long run

Most runs probs gna be easy in the AM?

You can always stay with singles and run a 3.57 mile + 13.20 5k when your are 22 like Josh McDougal.

I think it's ok as long as you introduce then gradually and don't do it more than 3 times per week. At your age, make sure they are not more than about 4 miles and as an above poster said, they are just shakeouts, not steady runs or anything like that.

Try to think of them as a just a way to get the blood flowing through the muscles in the morning recover from your afternoon seesions, not a workout in themselves.

arite.

So 4 miles longset?

At this age you should run whenever and how often and how long you want. 4 miles is a good start and at 4 AM 4 PM 7 days a week you would still only be running 56 MPW which is a very reasonable mileage goal at this age.

my goal isnt to run it 7 times a week i want to train 4 on 3 nights a week!

Mileage goal over the winter is 60 miles 56 is abit too high during the summer aiming for 30-35

Don't take it literally. It's just a frame where you would average 56 (or round up to 60) MPW. So play with it- 8 in a single session, 6 in another- whatever suits you. Not sure why you want to cut down in the summer though. Summer's a good time to build up higher easy mileage.

I wouldn't go to doubles while only running 6 days a week (if your rest day is a day off completely). I see a lot of people doing this, but I don't really see the point in running twice on one day and not at all on another day.

Your body needs a rest day!

Harry Kooter wrote:

I wouldn't go to doubles while only running 6 days a week (if your rest day is a day off completely). I see a lot of people doing this, but I don't really see the point in running twice on one day and not at all on another day.

If you take one rest day a week off, that is 52 days of missed training a year. I find that unacceptable. I recommend a scheduled day ever 3 weeks. This way it is an actual break in training every 3 weeks, so you can start up a new routine/cycle.

what about doubling in the p.m same principle right? if the main session, such as a workout or longer run needs to be in the morning due to prior commitments.

How much is the OP doing in mileage? Doubles probably aren't necessary until you've built up to 60 or so in singles. You'd have more aerobic benefit with doing one 9 mile run, rather than 3 in the morning and 6 at night.