punishment for no reason

I forgot to add, my question was does anyone think my request is unreasonable?? and if so what do they think I should do.

your coaches are puss

Well, your idea of her doing them is pretty dumb-- I wouldn't suggest it. It's a really juvenile, revenge-y sounding complaint, and if I were your coach I'd totally just let you quit. It makes much more sense for them to make it up to you guys some other way that would actually have something to do with your success. Be more creative. Is there something your team has wanted to do for a long time that the coaches haven't gone for? A run in a new and interesting place? Don't threaten to quit, but you might have grounds to request something like that. It sounds to me like they made a legitimate mistake, but you will only be hurting yourself if you blow it out of proportion.

Your throwers are real specimens to be able to handle 16 miles including hill repeats.

"ALSO they made the throwers even do the hills.

side note: the hill workout plus the mileage to run to the park and back totalled 16 miles..."

yeah you're right, I'm just really heated in the moment right now since I just got back from it. Also they made me and the other person wait while the throwers finished. I had to sit there for about an extra hour in the rain in 35-40 degree weather, its just doesn't make sense to me that they would put their runners in that sort of harms way, I couldn't stop shiverring. But yeah I do need to think of a different idea,

Your request is absurd.

If anyone would have missed practice on my team, they wouldn't have been welcome back the following day, or any day thereafter.

You guys have it easy.

Why would you let your teammate miss practice without kicking his ass?

You guys are very JV.

Do you really think a coach has to answer to you? Grow up.

I have never liked the idea of adding to a workout for punishment. The training plan should be designed so that you are always doing the optimal workload, meaning that doing any less or any more would be detrimental to your training. The only valid reason for training to deviate from the planned workouts is if it becomes evident that an athlete or group of athletes are at a different fitness or ability level than previously thought. When the coach adds a workout like this, they are telling you one of two things:

1)They are overtraining you, but they don't care

or

2) They had you doing less than you should have been doing before the unscheduled extra workout (this is the only way to add a workout without overtraining)

One of these cases must be true, which means that your coach is screwing your team in one way or another.

Seems like something a middle school or high school coach would do. Sounds like your team and your coaches need to grow up.

just tell us your school name so we can hate the coaches there so no one would ever run for them....

Sammmmy wrote:

Your request is absurd.

If anyone would have missed practice on my team, they wouldn't have been welcome back the following day, or any day thereafter.

You guys have it easy.

Why would you let your teammate miss practice without kicking his ass?

You guys are very JV.

Do you really think a coach has to answer to you? Grow up.

I agree with Sammy.

On my team, the punishment would have been that you had to sit out of the workout.

Are you on a High School JV team?

Missing scheduled practice with a valid excuse (care to share the excuse, by chance?) is fine, as long as you get the run in on your own time. Missing a run/workout completely is less fine.

Having said that, your coach's request is absurd, for the reason stated by a previous poster - the addition of such a high intensity workout on top of your current training load shows either under or overtraining. Your request, however, is just as absurd.

My coach has the policy that if you miss practice without permission, the entire team has do do some kind of community service type thing. In the past this has been picking up trash at the track stadium, cleaning the weight room etc. It's a very fair policy in my opinion.

honestly The excuse shouldnt matter because heres the order of events:

830am:emailed the coach to let her know of us missing

1030am:she responded to the email

600pm:the coaches are pissed were are at practice and decide the team has to do hill repeats as a result

no matter what the excuse was they responded to the email without issue. If they had said it was not a legitimate excuse then I would understand. If you must know it was my little sisters birthday and I was going home for it. our friday practice for distance runners is 30 minutes easy which I can do on my own and don't need the assistance of an indoor track at a 6pm practice...

sorry typo...

"600pm:the coaches are pissed we aren't at practice and decide the team has to do hill repeats as a result"

Big mistake coming forward with your excuse - if you are missing practice for your sister's birthday, you are not a dedicated athlete. If your attitude towards a 30 minute run is that you can do it on your own, then why not do every run on your own? You are on a team, start acting like it.

And yes, your coach is a moron for making the team do hills as a punishment - the alternative should be booting your unserious ass off the team, where you can do meaningless 30 minute runs every day of the week by yourself.

i think everyone needs to back up a minute...it doesnt matter why he missed practice, bc different excuses are valid for different people. to him, this was important and the coaches said it was fine, if it was an issue they shoudlve said it.

in addition he said its a small d2 school so i doubt that they have the luxury of going and kicking off eveyrone who misses a practice here and there, especially when it was made out to be acceptable.

quit that team, the coaches are terrible

Any coach who punishes with fitness is a sorry coach. Too bad you went to that program. Don't let your coach undermine your love of running with that crap!

Alan Arkin wrote:

Any coach who punishes with fitness is a sorry coach. Too bad you went to that program. Don't let your coach undermine your love of running with that crap!

I disagree to some extent.

Certainly, punishing with fitness is not optimal. However, doing some extra hills is not a big deal. You should be in good enough shape that your season isn't going to be compromised by some hills.

You're a f*cking liar. Face it. There is more to this story, which don't know about.