Who would win in a 3000 meter race between El G and Haile G?

el g would absolutely pwn, it wouldn't even be close. He'd just sit on him for six and a half laps and then blow by haile with a 54.

Haile has definitely closed faster than 54 in races before. In a race it would be close, but I'd say El G wins 75% of the time, if not more.

Geb ran more 3000s than El G, but El G ran faster. In their prime, El G wins 9 out of 10 times.

I vote Ali G.

Haile no doubt, no one can compete with his ethiopian speed, he is def. the best!

I'm with El G on this one.

To be fair though I think in beating them they'd both go damn close to the WR and probably break it, if they ran as they should (Haile flat out from start, El G chasing then trying to kick). and would be pretty damn close regardless.

While I think the odds would be with El G....to say that anyone would own a prime Haile Gebreselasie is just plain stupid. I have never seen anyone who would own or dominate him.

Not Bekele or El G or anyone, they may have beaten him but that would be it. Geb was much much tougher and smarter than El G or Bekele. From 1995 to 1998 he was friggin amazing, Bekele was barely any faster time trialing than Geb was. Geb however was borderline invincible head to head. Plus Geb never ran a dumb race. Geb closed a feww 3ks with 54 second last laps, including I believe, a 7:25. El G nor Bekele could close any better of a fast pace. Actually I think off a fast pace Geb may have the best kick out of all of them, take for example, his 54.2 last lap to close out his 1997 12:41 5k record.

Now I do think that El G has a lot going for him and would most likely win in a series of 10 races, I'd take Geb to win about 3 or 4. The Sydney Olympics highlight the difference in intangibles here; Geb with a busted achilles and missed training, dug down deep to outhustle Tergat for the 10k gold. Meanwhile El G crumbled under the pressure in 1500m and got walked down in the stretch, this was very close to El G's prime too. You can never count out someone with Geb's ability to get it done.

the430miler, is that you?

I don't know... I think El G could probably close very fast even off a fast pace. In the Olympic 1500 he went 51.9 after a 54 third lap. Yeah sure, the 3000 is a different race and the first two laps of the Oly 1500 were slow, but come on. El G ran 12:51 for 5000, and probably could have ran low 14:40s in his prime. Combine that with 3:26 speed, and El G would win. If El G had seriously persued the 3000 record in his prime I think he could have ran 7:19.

Too bad we can't play God and put El G, Bekele, Geb, and Komen all in their prime in a 3000 race with someone like Saif Shaheen (in prime) as rabbit. Now THAT would be a race!

[quote]too bad wrote:

El G ran 12:51 for 5000, and probably could have ran low 14:40s in his prime. quote]

I meant low 12:40s.

shaheens run 7:53 for a steeple, he deserves to be in the race. let some shmuck like bernard lagat rabbit through the 2k in 4:52 or so.

Haile beat EL G in 5000mr at the junior IAAF which was took place in seoul. i do not rember the year

It was 92.

If you're widening the field Komen is the only guy to have run sub-8min for miles (and did it twice recording 7.58 each time). In 1997 (when Komen first went sub-8) Haile and Morceli had a battle that Haile won in 8.01 (and went on to break other WRs so was obviously in top shape). Komen's 3K is superior to either El G or Haile.

Had he been more consistent in his training Komen could have achieved far more than he did. He's one athlete I look at and think 'He was phenomenal but could have been so much better'.

El G would win at 3k most of the time. The real question is who would win at 5k?

Morceli was anemic at that race. The real race would be Komen vs. ElG and Morceli. Morceli ran 7:25 WR beating Haile by 13 seconds. He pretty much ran the last half by himself negative splitting with the last kilo in 2:25.

too bad wrote:

Too bad we can't play God and put El G, Bekele, Geb, and Komen all in their prime in a 3000 race with someone like Saif Shaheen (in prime) as rabbit. Now THAT would be a race!

Agreed--and throw morceli in there too. Phew that would be amazing to watch. Imagine El G going for his signature 400-500m drive and watching all those guys sticking with him to duke it out in the final straightaway.

Lagat closed a 5,000 in 51. I think El G could close a 3,000 faster than 54. El G would beat Geb in a 3,000 almost every time. Especially if it came down to the kick.

Patman wrote:

El G would win at 3k most of the time. The real question is who would win at 5k?

That's not the real question because 70% of the time Geb would win. That is pretty much thier trading off point. El G would own sub 5K, Geb would own super 5K

I don't know about that one. El G hasn't race that many 5000s and I think would have a good shot at beating Haile in that event too. He does have a gold medal in that event too.

No It's not wrote:

Patman wrote:

El G would win at 3k most of the time. The real question is who would win at 5k?

That's not the real question because 70% of the time Geb would win. That is pretty much thier trading off point. El G would own sub 5K, Geb would own super 5K