Grant Fisher SOLOs 12:51.84!!

Respect for the detail and enthusiasm, like to see positive fans being positive. great post.

but you are going to be so far from correct next weekend, it’s not even funny. He’s leaving it really late and under more difficult circumstances to setup a standard-box-ticking exercise before shutting it down for a few months. but also, doesn’t he have the standard already, or am I out to lunch here.

count this in the realm of all the disappointing not even close WR rumor efforts in the last two years.

Yes . . . Grant does have the 5k standard . . . but not the 10k standard . . . in fact, he does not even have a 10k world ranking due to the fact he didn't race a 10k last year.

So . . . no . . . he is not shutting it down after today . . . quite the reverse . . . this upcoming 5k race is one more fitness test . . . to prepare him for Sound Running's The TEN on March 16th . . . where he confirmed in his post-race interview today he just wants/needs to get the 27:00 Oly Q . . . so not a AR attempt there . . . at least at this point.

However . . . have a pretty shrewd hunch no one will be disappointed with Grant's performance next weekend . . .

Yeah, sorry just meant shutting down after that BU meet until outdoors, wasn’t aware the Ten was in March, you are correct.

Not related to this thread - but what are the details for 'The Ten' that both Munson and Grant Fisher mentioned today? Is this the one in Orange County around March 15th?

March 16th at JSerra HS in San Juan Capistrano . . . expect SR to start posting early entries within the week . . .

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The TEN — Sound Running

The TEN will take place on March 5th and will host one of the best distance nights in the World. Check here for entries, schedule, results, and viewing info.

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Would be interesting to see an elite women's 5k pop up on the ticket, as well. With Cranny in it, and including a special invite to...

^this is wrt the upcoming BU meet.

For all the talk about what Jakob thinks about Kerr's race today . . .

Think about what Cheptegei, Kiplimo, Kejelcha, Aregawi, et al's reaction must be to Grant's 8:03 2-mile . . .

They know they have an equal on the other side of the world . . .

I don't think they know much after today that they did not already know. IAAF tables (2017 edition) equate his 8:03high to about a 7:28 3000m (he's run 7:25 outdoors, late last year), 12:50 5000m (he's run 12:46 outdoors / 12:53 indoors), or 26:47 10000m (he's run 26:33). So he's perhaps in better shape now than he was indoors in his best year, by a couple seconds, but it's nothing super unprecedented for him.

I don't see it happening.

The following are equivalent according to WA indoor tables:

8:03.68 12:52.52

Does he reliable get pacing through 3k? Is there someone to go with him when they step off? I would love someone like Wesley Kiptoo or Adriaan Wildschutt to give him someone to spar with, but idk if they are still running this indoor season

Very insightful.

Hope he has some help with pacing in the 5k. He already has standard what’s the point of helping others get the Standard.

Todays 2 mile first pacer was simply bad. The second pacer ratcheted it back down then couldn’t last. Grant had to take the lead and continue to ratchet the pace down otherwise there would have been no WR from Kerr. Kerr owes Grant a big load of thanks which he acknowledged in his interview.

One possibility: Grant is the de-facto pacer . . . rabbiting everyone thru 7:51/3k (13:05/5k pace = Oly Q) then taking off to achieve whatever time he has targeted . . . he may be willing to do this if the other runners are his former BTC mates (Sean, Mo, Thomas, Kieran, Even).

However . . . now that his Millrose 2 mile has provided the racing evidence he was looking for that his new training program is working and working very well . . . sure seems likely Grant would want to see what this level of fitness yields for 5k . . . and trust it is good enough for him to target/regain his indoor AR.

All that being said . . . it is now Tuesday morning . . . and nothing has been written/spoken about this "mystery" race . . .

Grant said last month it will be in Boston but didn't specify the venue or meet name or whom he will be competing against . . . guessing it will be this Friday's BU DMR meet is just that . . . speculation.

And no one . . . including all the media outlets including social media and podcasts . . . haven't whispered a word about it.

Didn't LRC or Citius Mag or NY Times . . . or some random fan who bumped into Grant in the men's room . . . even bother to ask about this race then give the t&f world a heads up?

Expect entries for the BU DMR meet to be published online later today . . . so "clues" may be forthcoming in the next several hours.

In any case . . . have to say it . . . given the deafening silence . . . this all sounds/smells/looks like a BTC/Jerry Schumacher production . . .

Using . . .ellipses . . . as often as you do . . . does not . . . make your writing . . . stronger. It just . . . distracts . . . readers. Many readers . . . will find it so annoyed . . . they will . . . find it hard . . . maybe impossible . . . to take you . . . seriously.

You obviously love track, and put a lot of thought into your posts. Why make them so hard to read? It's almost as if you don't want us to take you seriously.

PS I am saying this for selfish reasons. Even when I don't agree with you, I find that you have interesting and thought-provoking things to say. But as you add more and more ellipses, it's getting harder and harder to read your posts.

As the Good Book says, why would you light a candle and hide it under a basket? Why not share your light with the world.

In comparing the tracks, will it be anywhere near apples to apples? Bekele set his 5/10 WRs that same year and I think he would been more than 2 seconds faster than Kincaid. Bekele might have run 12:40 at BU.

What ... the hell ... is it ... with ... the ...
ellipses?

They aren't even actual ellipses. They are just three random dots thrown about randomly.

Lol, and you just used 'random' twice in just 4 words! And what are 'actual' ellipses?