Looking for something light weight that I can use for an easy run with fast strides or hill sprints after. Most shoes in the market these days are big and clunky, regardless of weight. Previously, I have used the Nike Pegasus 36, the Zoom elite and the skylon. What are some shoes similar to those Nike models?
I'm a huge fan of the kinvara. I do lots of middle distance type training, so paces faster than most "running" shoes are intended for. Lots of drills too. Doing this stuff in bulkier shoes feels wrong.
I really like the streakfly for easy runs with hills/strides. They can be expensive but I can almost always find them on sale and even I do I buy a couple of pairs.
I really like the streakfly for easy runs with hills/strides. They can be expensive but I can almost always find them on sale and even I do I buy a couple of pairs.
I've been using the Streakflys recently for my speed development days where I do a long warmup, lots of drills/plyos, and short sprints. I have very mixed feelings on these shoes, as they are sometimes too squishy for me on the fast/explosive stuff but then they can also feel a little bit thin on the long warmups. I've been looking for a more traditional racing flat to replace the Streakfly but haven't had much luck within my parameters of a lower stack, fairly responsive shoe that is also comfortable enough for the warmups and cooldowns.
I will have to try the streakfly. The Nike zoom elite and Peg 36 are actually lower stack height than the streakfly and sound like they were a bit more firm than the streakfly.
How is the ground feel on the streak fly? That’s something that is practically nonexistent with the more cushioned, high stack trainers.
I'm a huge fan of the kinvara. I do lots of middle distance type training, so paces faster than most "running" shoes are intended for. Lots of drills too. Doing this stuff in bulkier shoes feels wrong.
Triumphs are essentially Kinvaras with more cushioning. Currently my go to trainer.
Went through an invincible phase, but I’ve heard too many negative things about the new version so I haven’t tried them yet.
Brooks Hyperion Tempo ideal non-plated lightweight low-profile shoe that can be reasonable cost-wise. Not big into Brooks. Was very impressed with Tempoes ended up buying Hyperion Elite 3s (AVOID...over-priced, dead foam, heavy, denim-like upper, etc). Any lightweight Saucony offering also a great call like Kinvara mentioned above (non-plated variety). Find NB FuelCell range too soft and poor traction.
Thanks for the responses. I have tried the New Balance shoes in the past but the stack height is way too high. They have mostly been pretty soft and not great at faster speeds. I have used the Kinvara in the past and didn’t love it. I’ll take another look. The Brooks Hyperion tempo seems promising as does the streak fly.
I'm a huge fan of the kinvara. I do lots of middle distance type training, so paces faster than most "running" shoes are intended for. Lots of drills too. Doing this stuff in bulkier shoes feels wrong.
Can you really call a shoe that has a 31/27 stack height a low profile shoe? I don’t think anyone would continue putting Kinvaras on this list if the first six or so editions weren’t made.
I'm a huge fan of the kinvara. I do lots of middle distance type training, so paces faster than most "running" shoes are intended for. Lots of drills too. Doing this stuff in bulkier shoes feels wrong.
Can you really call a shoe that has a 31/27 stack height a low profile shoe? I don’t think anyone would continue putting Kinvaras on this list if the first six or so editions weren’t made.
Is the stack height really that high on the kinvara now? That’s crazy. It used to be way lower profile. For reference, the peg 36 has a stack height of 28/18. Most shoes have a forefoot height of 28 these days, give or take a few mm.
I don't know anything about Nike shoes, but use the Asics Evoride Speed for precisely those types of runs and they work great for me.
This one looks real good. Lower stack (26/21) and light weight. Definitely putting this at the top of the list. Will probably head to my local run specialty shop this weekend to try on a few pairs listed in this thread.
Can you really call a shoe that has a 31/27 stack height a low profile shoe? I don’t think anyone would continue putting Kinvaras on this list if the first six or so editions weren’t made.
Is the stack height really that high on the kinvara now? That’s crazy. It used to be way lower profile. For reference, the peg 36 has a stack height of 28/18. Most shoes have a forefoot height of 28 these days, give or take a few mm.
Stack-flation is definitely real but I think the bigger thing I've been looking for is responsiveness. As mentioned before, I have the Streakflys which are similar stack and they can sometimes feel too squishy for me. However, I previously had a pair of Adidas SL20s, again similar stack profile, but were a lot more responsive and firm. With all the new foams I think it's now really important to try out the shoe firsthand because the raw stats can't tell the story of the ride. Even having familiarity with the proprietary foam can't give a good indication since it seems like brands mix up wildly different foams for their different models, even if it's all under the same name.
I picked up a pair of Brooks Hyperion Max, for $79 on sale. I've never run in Brooks before, but i was also looking for a tempo/interval/easyday shoe so I don't have to wear out my Vaporflys. It has been great, have about 100 miles on them so far, and a few track workouts. Its exactly what I was looking for. They are lightweight, but even though MAX is in the name the stack height is just a normal trainer i'd say.
I'm a huge fan if you can find them at this price of $79 as well (check Dicks). I wouldn't pay full price of $180 for these though, I don't know if they'll last that long mileage wise.