I’ve been hearing about this all day from several sources. Possible huge announcement coming on Friday.
I’ve been hearing about this all day from several sources. Possible huge announcement coming on Friday.
I'll believe it when I see it from the AIU, but a quick check shows a bunch of different Kenyan newspapers and news sites are running variations on this story.
Some saying the Friday timeline is for a meeting to discuss a possible ban, not a ban itself.
Potentially huge, sport shaking news though.
El keniano where art thou
It's been coming
He saw it coming and left before it happened. He was probably fearing Kipchoge will be busted too.
I'll believe this when I see it, but it is lpng overdue.
However, I guess even if it happens, they will still allow elite Kenyans like Gentleman Tim to compete - maybe require them to undergo a minimum number of tests.
Reading the article, I'd guess that Kipchoge and one or two other big names have already been busted.
There’s literally no way this actually happens. I’ll race an all-comers in a letsrun shirt if this actually happens.
Kenya is such a major player in distance running and athletics that I would be shocked if they don’t at least get a plea deal of some sort to get out of a possible ban. This is probably the equivalent of banning the US from Olympic basketball.
imagine Kipchoge not being able to compete. Tim Cheryiout. Faith Kipyegon. List goes on and on and on.
This would be a crazy decision to ban all the athletes from Kenya even though a few did commit infractions and violations. I believe the best majority of Kenyan athletes are perfectly clean. I hope this is not wishful or deluded thinking.
This reminded me of a situation that I and my peers faced at boarding school many years ago when someone who had cheated in the class and didn’t own up resulted in the whole class being punished. In my view this is not fair and there should be a better way.
250+ is not a few, and it's the tip of the iceberg. As I said, no doubt they would still allow 'properly vetted' Kenyan athletes to still compete independently, as with Russian athletes.
Huangdi wrote:
There’s literally no way this actually happens. I’ll race an all-comers in a letsrun shirt if this actually happens.
Kenya is such a major player in distance running and athletics that I would be shocked if they don’t at least get a plea deal of some sort to get out of a possible ban. This is probably the equivalent of banning the US from Olympic basketball.
imagine Kipchoge not being able to compete. Tim Cheryiout. Faith Kipyegon. List goes on and on and on.
It would be a monumental step forward for the sport if Kenya was banned for a solid 5 to 10 years. I would actually start to have some faith in the sport's governing bodies. Athletes who have been spending large chunks of time training in Kenya should also be banned as they are likely part of the doping problem.
In addition, managers of Kenyan athletes should receive a lifetime ban and be fined most of their career earnings; they are the ones who are mostly responsible for this doping mess.
With a solid ban in place, rather than busting Kenyan after Kenyan for the last 10 years with nothing being done about it, anti-doping resources could instead be used productively and directed at other rogue nations such as Ethiopia and Uganda. It would interesting to see what could be found if some actual testing was directed at those nations.
Sadly though I agree with your sentiment, and I feel that there is far too much money and corruption in the highest elechons of the sport for the right things to happen.
interesting that the article mentions ethiopia amongst the four countries to be the most likely to have doping problems. seems rare any of their athletes get busted in competition, compared to the kenyans.
Kenya is among four countries included in Category A – member federations the World Athletics believe are most likely to have doping problems – along with Ethiopia, Belarus, hosts of next year’s European Games, and Ukraine.
I believe it's come to light that Athletics Kenya has been handing out a huge number of shadow bans, and this might be the justification that World Athletics needs to suspend the federation.
So far, the Anti-Doping Agency of Kenya (Adak) has sanctioned 22 athletes whose names are yet to be made public.There is also an additional nine active cases, amid claims that there have been conspiracies to conceal the names of some drug cheats.
I think it's a great idea to ban Kenya, where, according to WADA, "the doping practices of Kenyan athletes are unsophisticated, opportunistic, and uncoordinated."
This will make room for countries like the USA, the UK, Norway, etc., where the doping practices are not unsophisticated, opportunistic, and uncoordinated, to win more medals and maybe a road race here and there.
Who cares about BALCO, that shows Americans dope on a large and sophisticated scale?
Who cares about widespread doping practices among British cyclists?
Who cares about Norwegian asthmatics, Henrik being a likely doper, and Marit Bjørgen's biceps?
Ban them Africans! Make T&F Whiter Again!
There needs to be something along the lines of a Russian ban. It has made a mockery of the sport and the results are completely meaningless.
The whataboutism is flying. Doping need not be sophisticated, especially when it is endemic.
Ghost1 wrote:
This would be a crazy decision to ban all the athletes from Kenya even though a few did commit infractions and violations. I believe the best majority of Kenyan athletes are perfectly clean. I hope this is not wishful or deluded thinking.
"a few"? Come on Ghost1, that joke is getting old. From the "Athletics Team" article cited by the OP:
Kenya might be suspended from ALL Athletics activities tomorrow (Friday, 25) by the World Athletics (WA) and Athletics Integrity Unit (AIU) due to that rampant doping cases that have engulfed the country this year by Kenyan runners.
"the best majority of Kenyan athletes are perfectly clean" - no way. Considering that worldwide over 40% dope, and that the Kenyans are among the worst offenders, the vast majority of Kenyan athletes have to be doping.
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astro wrote:
The whataboutism is flying. Doping need not be sophisticated, especially when it is endemic.
+1
Also, Wada only saw the unsophisticated doping, not the doping that was too sophisticated to be seen, to then conclude that all doping in Kenya is unsophisticated. ROFL
Never seen a sport so pitiful that it tries to come up with a half-baked genetics argument to try to cover for rampant doping. The "culture of running" is just a culture of cheating.
Especially when the agents are bankrolling it. That is when you start getting into cycling-like doping doctors.
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