Thank God Ritz, Webb, Ryan Hall, Fernandez, so many others, didn't opt to end their seasons with a meaningless 800 in front of thousands of frustrated fans.
Perhaps. It probably was gusting up that high a little after the meet ended.
The weather was changing a lot . After I saw the super fast 1500 times for the women, I ran up to the stadium to check the wind as it was getting windeier and windier in the mixed zone. At one point, I wondered if the tent the press was in might blow over but that type of wind never touched the track level.
The wind was coming from the S or SW W which is the tallest end most blocked by the stadium.
I asked a lot of people about the wind. Ingebrigsten said it was hard to figure out what direction it was coming from. Check out our videos.
Rojo. There is no wind, as I stated in my post above. The airport is in the middle of the valley, 10 miles away from the stadium. The stadium completely blocks the South side of the stadium. Look at the video. Where do you see wind of ant kind? It's blocked by the stadium. 18mph is 8mps, DOUR times the allowable. When it's blowing 2mps, every knows it. Look at the video. Where is the wind?
just wanted to point out once again that not only is the wind measured 10 miles away from the stadium, it is also measured 10 meters above ground level. i forget the typical conversion, but i think wind speed at 1-2 meters above ground level is usually about 50% of what it is at 10 meters above ground level.
You guys arguing the 3:57 is better than the 3:56 sound like a bunch of clowns. So I suppose we should give the 5k world record to Bekele instead of Cheptegei because Chep had better pacing and wavelights??? The record books do not care about that bs, the faster time is what matters.
To the other guy, I would say this at two miles they would NOW be much closer than you apparently think.
In the mile? There was one way to find out , and the race is over 16 days away, there was/is a way to find out. They have not chosen that road, and for those who say..well he comitted to the 800...well he can change any minute any day , I am sure Brooks would enjoy the hype.
What’s the rush on having them face off anyways? They’re both HS seniors. There’s going to be at least another decade to have these argument once they do compete. Hobbs Kessler included.
3:56.2 on a wet track in 18 mph winds is more impressive than Garys 3:57.98
a "wet track" is not slow. water does not compress and actually makes the track marginally faster.
cool temps with high humidity are actually very fast, as history has repeatedly shown
wind readings, such as that 18mph you're quoting are done at 10 meters (~33 feet) ABOVE ground level. as others have pointed out, just look at the actual wind readings on the track.
the only thing in my mind that makes Sahlman's run potentially better than Gary's is that the former went through 809 in about 1:55 while the latter was about 1:58.
these two kids are really even.
Can you explain or provide a source for the "wet track" comment? I've never read anything of substance related to this topic and your comment makes me think maybe there are some myths worth busting. I would think that a wet track would always be more slippery which would mean more energy lost.
a "wet track" is not slow. water does not compress and actually makes the track marginally faster.
cool temps with high humidity are actually very fast, as history has repeatedly shown
wind readings, such as that 18mph you're quoting are done at 10 meters (~33 feet) ABOVE ground level. as others have pointed out, just look at the actual wind readings on the track.
the only thing in my mind that makes Sahlman's run potentially better than Gary's is that the former went through 809 in about 1:55 while the latter was about 1:58.
these two kids are really even.
Can you explain or provide a source for the "wet track" comment? I've never read anything of substance related to this topic and your comment makes me think maybe there are some myths worth busting. I would think that a wet track would always be more slippery which would mean more energy lost.
no specific studies i've seen. i just know that water doesn't compress, which means better energy return, though i suspect it's almost negligible.
michael norman has gone under 44 four times now i believe. 43.45 & 43.79 was dry. 43.60 and 43.61 track was wet.
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Thank God Ritz, Webb, Ryan Hall, Fernandez, so many others, didn't opt to end their seasons with a meaningless 800 in front of thousands of frustrated fans.
It comes down to what Colin Sahlman values and maybe he just likes the 800 more than he does satisfying a bunch of whiny posters on Letsrun who will probably hold this against him his whole running career and coaching career if he has one.
What’s the rush on having them face off anyways? They’re both HS seniors. There’s going to be at least another decade to have these argument once they do compete. Hobbs Kessler included.
I’m sure you know this, but for whatever reason the “while in high school” status has almost mythical meaning in the US. Sahlman v. Martin and other other top HS boys in the mile right now would be 1000x more interesting than the two finishing 4th and 7th in a college race 10 months later when the focus is rightfully on the older faster kids.
But again, we can’t really fault Sahlman for not racing often enough in high profile races.
I don't know what the wind was during the race, but right after the race in the tent where they were doing the interviews, you can see the wind moving the tent dramatically, so it was definitely windy. If Martin and Sahlman race each other fresh at the mile without pacers, Sahlman would draft off of Martin and outkick him at the end. If they run with pacers or somewhat faster professional runners running 58.5/1:56.5/2:55, Martin would have a very good shot at breaking Sahlman.
You guys arguing the 3:57 is better than the 3:56 sound like a bunch of clowns. So I suppose we should give the 5k world record to Bekele instead of Cheptegei because Chep had better pacing and wavelights??? The record books do not care about that bs, the faster time is what matters.
Attention moron, this is sports. There is no clear answer and if you tell me times/records are all that matters you damn sure better be saying Ryan Hall is a 2:04 guy. To ignore the nuances of factors influencing performances and rely only on a number is the truest sign of a clown.
