Men-Mike Powell, Long Jump
Women-Marita Koch, 400m or Paula Radcliffe Marathon
Track and Field: The World's Original Sport. Everyone else is just playing with their balls.
Men-Mike Powell, Long Jump
Women-Marita Koch, 400m or Paula Radcliffe Marathon
Track and Field: The World's Original Sport. Everyone else is just playing with their balls.
I think you guys are forgetting about somebody. Simply by the numbers, on the men's side it's Bekele's 26:17. Even better than 19.32...and equivalent to about 1:37 in the 800.
MJ's 19.32 and women's 3:50 1500m.
Sotomajor going over eight feet in the high jump. Go out and measure it against your wall. Some people can't even jump and touch 8'. That's like saying someone could't ride a bike faster than 1:41 or 26:17.
njl2 wrote:
I think the 800 is one of the worst records comparativly, it hasn't improved much in a while and and a few guys have been close to it, i think the 800 is stuck on at a barrier and once it break it people could go 1:38-1:39. no one else is close to the 200 and the 3000 is 3 seconds faster than the best miler, who was endurance based, could muster.
yeah great logic kid.....no one come come close to those marks ...so they must be weak.....i think to be stuck at a barrier you have to have someone close to the mark since Kipketer was over one second too slow...and no one within .5secs of him...and dont see how you get off saying were stuck at 1:40....WHEN WE ARE NOT EVEN REALLY STUCK AT 1:41....in fact right now....hell...when was the last time someone broke the 1:43 mark??
1:38 ..wow..49sec laps back to back...you guys are about as well grounded as a helium ballon...no human being can do that!!!...i mean do you have any idea the number of awsome milers that never broke 1:44...
this is why i come houmor ...WOW
Until you have ever run a top-class 800m, or run against top 800m runnners, you have absolutely NO IDEA how fast a 1min43 800m is, let alone a 1min41.11. That record is AMAZING. And if it "comparativly" is poor, than it just shows what shyte running calculators etc are.
I think the 200 is about as perfectly fast as any human will ever run.
The best record ever is the 2 miles (7:58) that Komen ran 2 times....
Now, that's mind bogging...
7:20 is equal to a 7:55-7:56 2 mile. the 3k was Komen's best mark
Mat wrote:
The best record ever is the 2 miles (7:58) that Komen ran 2 times....
Now, that's mind bogging...
I disagree and always wondered why it wasn't faster. Komen was a 3:46 miler in limited attempts. To slow down 3 seconds/lap, even while running another mile, and run 8-60 second laps, doesn't seem as great as the other records.
thought some people might be interested in this . . .
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Just for the sake of being complete, I have included a listing of all the mags below:
Eamonn Coghan 3.52.9 July 9, 1979
Carl Lewis August 5, 1996
Eamonn Coghlan February 26, 1979
Dick Buerkle February 6, 1978
Houston McTear March 6, 1978
Bill Rodgers October 30, 1978
Mary Decker Slaney July 29, 1985
Dwight Stones July 2, 1984
Edwin Moses September 12, 1983
Florence Griffith Joyner July 25, 1988
Mary Decker February 18, 1980
Flo Jo / Jackie Joyner Oct. 10, 1998
Carl Lewis Speed Thrills June 25, 1984
Mike Powell Smashes Beamon\'s Record 9/9/1991
Michael Johnson Olympics 1996 Commemorative
Michael Johnson August 12, 1996
Carl Lewis Glory! August 20, 1984
Jackie Joyner Kersee 9/14/1987
Ben Johnson BUSTED 10.3.1988
Mary Decker Tabb Record Breaker 8/26/1982
Carl Lewis Best in World 8/22/1983
in thinking about it some more i've got to go with paula's marathon
women's half-marathon wr = 1:06:44
paula's marathon wr = 2:15:25
that is a pretty awesome performance, her half in the marathon was less than a minute off the world record... by that same standard the men's marathon world record s/b around 2 hours flat!
Madein__82 wrote:
1:38 ..wow..49sec laps back to back...you guys are about as well grounded as a helium ballon...no human being can do that!!!...i mean do you have any idea the number of awsome milers that never broke 1:44...
UR an idiot. MJs 19.32 200m record is the 100m world record broken twice. And he ran it back then. 49 sec laps back to back does sound hard, but it sounds hard right now. If we take your same logic, the 400m world record (MJs too) is 43.18. In order to break that a human would have to basically double 21.5, which according to you is impossible. The basic lesson is times change and competition grows. With more competition in the 800, you will see more people in the 1:41s. I do think that whoever does it is a person capable of not only running a crazy mile, but a 44-point 400.
one record that hasn't been mentioned so far and is probably more untouchable than kip's is jarmila's 1:53. I would call that record the most untouchable and the most doped
Yes, Michael Johnson's 19.32 is faster than the 100m world record run back to back, but you see, when you have more room to sprint, you can pick up more speed. That's why it is faster, and that's why they don't count 4x400m relay times for world records, because people are getting a head start. I would agree that 19.32 is one of the best records, but the 800m WR is much harder to attain, because you have to have a perfect balance of aerobic and anaerobic fitness. You have to be the 400m runner and the miler.
And i think that the fact it took until the final 3 races of the circuit this year for someone to even break 1.44, shows just how hard 1.41 flat is. Someone might one day break 1.40, but it wont be in my lifetime, or my childrens, and it wont be by anyone doing things legit
Hulkster wrote:
And i think that the fact it took until the final 3 races of the circuit this year for someone to even break 1.44, shows just how hard 1.41 flat is. Someone might one day break 1.40, but it wont be in my lifetime, or my childrens, and it wont be by anyone doing things legit
jeremy wariner could.
actually i don't really believe that but it's fun to speculate.
Guess it depends on YOUR distance to some degree, I'm lovin an earlier Top 10 you mentioned Abe Tomoe
She is still the only women ever to break 7hrs for 100km (next best Ann Transon 7hrs) and she rane 6hr 33min so next best 27min behind so picking nobody will get near it for a hell of a long time.
Also Yiannis Kouros who still holds about the top 16 distances ever run for 24hr and number one 303.5km
Other than that I think Bob Beamons 1968 was the great WR, currently MJ = 200m, chattered it !!
Re Paula R, great run but the womens marathon is a realatively new event and has multiple WRs over even the last 5yrs and will continue to be broken until the womens WR eclipses the mens in the late 2010s, now that will be fun
pete
143man wrote:
Until you have ever run a top-class 800m, or run against top 800m runnners, you have absolutely NO IDEA how fast a 1min43 800m is, let alone a 1min41.11. That record is AMAZING. And if it "comparativly" is poor, than it just shows what shyte running calculators etc are.
Ever heard of Peter Elliott? Hardly a name that comes to mind in a discussion about the respective merits of the various world records.
He was a miler/1500 specialist running in the shadows of his far more famous near contemporaries - Cram, Coe and Ovett.
Yet without even training for that specific event, he ran under 1.43 for the 800.
All the fastest times for 800 have been run by 800 specialists.
I imagine that had many of those world class 1500mt runners turn their attention to the 800, they’d lower it to under 1.41.
But as the 1500 is one of track’s blue ribbon events - there’s never been the slightest incentive for any decent miler to concentrate on that distance.
Don’t forget that Ramzi had no difficulty beating the 800 specialists at their own event at the 2005 world champs.
>Ever heard of Peter Elliott? ..Yet without even training for that specific event, he ran under 1.43 for the 800.
You will find Peter was very much an 800 runner in the mid 80s and only later in his career had more success at 1500. It's true though that when he did his 1:42 that was at the peak of his powers when he was also racing world class 1500s.
>All the fastest times for 800 have been run by 800 specialists.
Ah so Coe at 1:41.73 really did not win the Olympics 1500 twice then and did not hold the 1500/mile world records either?
True Cruz rarely raced 1500/mile that much but he is well under 4 at the mile.
>But as the 1500 is one of track’s blue ribbon events - there’s never been the slightest incentive for any decent miler to concentrate on that distance.
The relative absence of the 800/1500 type seems to be a more recent thing. Remember Aouita had a go and snatched an Olympic brozne. Ovett was seemingly much more dominant at 1500/mile yet won the 1980 800 Olympics. Kelly Holmes won both in 2004. So if one gold is good, two is better!
However quite why El G never races 800 has always been a bit of a mystery to me. Maybe he was worried about possibly losing...