rojo wrote:
another perspective wrote:
Like do Dathan's athletes not know that it's established fact that Dathan took thyroid meds from Doc Brown even when tests showed his thyroid levels were fine and healthy; doing so in his own words hoping to boost his testosterone levels? And that "Ritzenhein likely received [an L-Carnitine] infusion far in excess of 50mL" (that being the legal limit)?
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Is this true. Can someone provide me a source for Ritz and unneeded thyroid meds
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/sports/nike-oregon-project-alberto-salazar-dathan-ritzenhein.htmlOpening paragraph of this article:
[quote]Dathan Ritzenhein, an Olympic distance runner for the United States, was starting to feel sick from his thyroid medication — a drug that was not medically necessary but one that his coach, a powerful and combative figure in the sport, had strongly recommended to improve his performance.
Dathan's own testimony is quoted later on:
[quote]Ritzenhein and Salazar’s conversations moved from supplements to “synthetic thyroid,” Ritzenhein testified, saying it was “to help with low testosterone levels.” Blood work performed at Nike’s lab showed that Ritzenhein’s thyroid-stimulating hormone and his testosterone levels were both within the normal range. Regardless, Salazar sent him to see Dr. Jeffrey Stuart Brown, an endocrinologist who is known for his belief that synthetic thyroid medication enhances athletic performance. The next day, Dr. Brown prescribed Levoxyl, a thyroid drug.
The L-Carnitine Infusion bit is later in same article. The NYT source for all this is mostly Ritz' own testimony.
To be very clear, I'm not out here saying "cancel Dathan Ritzenhein." I just think track as a very short memory sometimes in just how much *everyone* is basically 1-2 degrees of separation away from someone who either did some illegal and got banned, or did something pretty shady but never got banned. The women on BTC trained with an athlete who got banned for nandrolone use, the athletes of OAC are coached by a guy who has admitted to taking medication he didn't need to enhance performance. In the podcast the Coffee Boys talk about not understanding how the women on BTC would tolerate having Shelby around; and I am very seriously saying if they are curious about peer pressure/coach pressure/ performance pressure and how it can make you stay in a situation you aren't comfortable, literally just ask your coach.
My general advice to athletes would be to stfu about throwing around terms like "bad for the sport." If similar rocks can't be thrown back at your glass house yet, the odds are pretty good that something sketch or unfortunate will happen to someone around you.