BYU sit down, USC has a 30-year old punter

rojo wrote:

When I was coaching, your eligibility clock started ticking when you graduated whether you were in college or not?

No it didn't... your clock starts when you start college, not when you graduate high school. It was that way when you were coaching too.

rojo wrote:

I just turned on the USC - Notre Dame football game and they said the USC punter was 30.

How is that possible?

When I was coaching, your eligibility clock started ticking when you graduated whether you were in college or not? Does it not start if you are a pro athlete in another sport for some reason (he played Aussie rules football).

https://theathletic.com/1141402/2019/08/16/ben-griffiths-usc-punter-australia-age/

WTF? You were a college coach and THATS how you think eligibility works?

Yes.

This is what I was remembering.

So who is the fool, me or you?

The thing that I forgot about the rule is it only applies if you are participating in your sport. Since he was in Australia playing aussie football, not american football, he wasn't losing a season.

But an xc/track runner that is running at age 20 would be out of eligbility well before 25.

Go read NCAA rule 12.8.3.2.1

Game, set, match rojo.

rojo wrote:

So who is the fool, me or you?

I don't know what your talking about. Obviously you're wrong otherwise he wouldn't be playing. Ever heard of a waiver? Or do trust fund babies not have to worry about such matters?

12.8.1.1 Determining the Start of the Five-Year Period. For purposes of starting the count of time under the five-

year rule, a student-athlete shall be considered registered at a collegiate institution (domestic or foreign; see Bylaw 14.02.5)

when the student-athlete initially registers in a regular term (semester or quarter) of an academic year for a minimum full-

time program of studies, as determined by the institution, and attends the student’s first day of classes for that term (see

Bylaw 12.8.2). (Revised: 7/31/14)

rojo wrote:

(a) The student-athlete shall be charged with a season of intercollegiate eligibility for each calendar year after the oneyear time period (the next opportunity to enroll after one calendar year has elapsed) and prior to full-time

collegiate enrollment during which the student-athlete has participated in organized competition per Bylaw

12.02.9.

"during which the student-athlete has participated in organized competition" means this doesn't apply to someone who sat around doing nothing.

Unless there's some other bylaw that says this doesn't count (all too common) then you've found the loophole this guy exploited.

Rojo you are so wrong it hurts. Literally countless examples exist if you know how to google and have a brain. Did you know Jr Smith is playing golf now? Start there and maybe then it will make sense. My first hint is that Jr Smith is a basketball player.

rojo wrote:

So who is the fool, me or you?

You're the fool, you dumb POS

get real ppl wrote:

Rojo you are so wrong it hurts. Literally countless examples exist if you know how to google and have a brain. Did you know Jr Smith is playing golf now? Start there and maybe then it will make sense. My first hint is that Jr Smith is a basketball player.

it hurts my brain how f*cking stupid he is

Chris Weinke won the Heisman for Florida State at age 28 around 2000 or so.

I must have misunderstood the rule my entire life. I always read it as the clock started 1 year after graduation. People have a problem with BYU runners being a year older than their peers but it now appears that a kid can graduate from high school and go to work for five years and then come back to college to run from the age of 23 forward? Or a guy can go pro in baseball for 10 years and then retire and return to college to play golf at age 28?

JR Smith is playing college golf and he’s like 35

God Bless you robert, you know I love you and weldon... but dammit, how many times do we have to hash this one out? Strikethrough the word "running" and replace it with the word "racing." Now you would be correct. I don't give two poops whether the athlete is running their balls off, if they don't race, it doesn't matter. Until the moment that they either a) race or b) start taking 12 units, they could start NCAA, DI at 50 years old, for all the ncaa cares. Thems the rules. Since you it seems many are unaware of these vagaries, past your 21st bday, you lose a season of xc for participating in an xc race, a season of indoor for doing an indoor race, and a season of outdoor for doing an outdoor meet... but, if you do a road race?... you lose a season of all three! Ouch.

rojo wrote:

So who is the fool, me or you?...

But an xc/track runner that is running at age 20 would be out of eligbility well before 25.

Math wizzer wrote:

I must have misunderstood the rule my entire life. I always read it as the clock started 1 year after graduation. People have a problem with BYU runners being a year older than their peers but it now appears that a kid can graduate from high school and go to work for five years and then come back to college to run from the age of 23 forward? Or a guy can go pro in baseball for 10 years and then retire and return to college to play golf at age 28?

They probably intended it the way you thought, but wrote it badly.

This should stop all attacks on BYU because anyone can postpone college.