Tour de France? Possibly Greg LeMond in 1990.
Track & Field? No idea. You pick.
Interesting article from 2012:
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/when-if-ever-was-cycling-drug-free/
Tour de France? Possibly Greg LeMond in 1990.
Track & Field? No idea. You pick.
Interesting article from 2012:
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/when-if-ever-was-cycling-drug-free/
With the possibility that the great Emil Zatopek may have had a way to increase blood oxygen the way that Lasse Viren was supposed to have done later, I'd say that for Track, Abebe Bikila may have been the last pure, undoped runner.
The timeframe and the barefoot effect suggest authenticity.
So, Abebe Bikila.
Also, even if clean, Zatopek came before Bikila, so I say definitely Bikila.
Stoppit Smith wrote:
Also, even if clean, Zatopek came before Bikila, so I say definitely Bikila.
Both good choices.
Well recently for men I can be certain:
Bekele doper
Cheptegei doper
El G doper
Rudisha likely doping
WaydeVanN Peds
Kipchoge likely doping
Shaheen steeple doper
Bolt Peds
Wayde Van Niekerk
unknown sprinters wrote:
Wayde Van Niekerk
Watch the way he finished the 400m Olympic WR after the way he ran the first 300m. Watch his competitors. That's not natural. No way in hell.
Interesting questions. I think Lemond for TdF is a good pick. I can't think of another winner more recent than him who might have been clean. And then it's funny, going older than that, they were on all kinds of things that just weren't talked about much. So chances go way up that the winners were dirty. And hey, maybe there was never a clean TdF winner. I actually wouldn't be surprised.
I like the Bikila pick, too. But more modern, my first thought was Haile Gebrselassie. Maybe it's just me who always thought he was clean, though.
STEVE THE ADDICT^^^^^^""""""""--^' wrote:
unknown sprinters wrote:
Wayde Van Niekerk
Watch the way he finished the 400m Olympic WR after the way he ran the first 300m. Watch his competitors. That's not natural. No way in hell.
Runners no longer allowed to be in a class of their own?
Superior endurance and pacing. Did you see how fast Merritt went out at 200m, wayde was slightly ahead at 100m but he runs sub 10 so a 10.77 first 100m is manageable.Merrit went way to fast in the second 100m(9.6) draining alot of his energy . Waydes final 100m was good but not crazy, but it looked alot better against merrits 12.6 split.
On the womens side I'd go with Ashford.
Mondo duplantis
runandbike wrote:
Interesting questions. I think Lemond for TdF is a good pick. I can't think of another winner more recent than him who might have been clean. And then it's funny, going older than that, they were on all kinds of things that just weren't talked about much. So chances go way up that the winners were dirty. And hey, maybe there was never a clean TdF winner. I actually wouldn't be surprised.
This.
Lemond went from zero to hero in a matter of weeks in 1989. Has anyone ever recovered that well and quickly from sports anemia?
Iwan Thomas? Great runner, but I think there's at least 10 clean athletes faster.
Bolt was clean. He first broke 20 for 200m as a skinny 17 year old with terrible form.
Rudisha, a 6’03 Maasai warrior was clean. His dad was a 4 x 400m Olympic medalist, with basic training and raw talent.
Genes and talent! Coupled with excellent coaching, perfect temperament and drive.
Stoppit Smith wrote:
With the possibility that the great Emil Zatopek may have had a way to increase blood oxygen the way that Lasse Viren was supposed to have done later, I'd say that for Track, Abebe Bikila may have been the last pure, undoped runner.
The timeframe and the barefoot effect suggest authenticity.
So, Abebe Bikila.
God post. I was going to say Wilson Kipketer, but you may be right.
paris2024hawk wrote:
Iwan Thomas? Great runner, but I think there's at least 10 clean athletes faster.
Exactly.
Calvin Smith 9.93A in 1983?
you cant handle the truth wrote:
Bolt was clean. He first broke 20 for 200m as a skinny 17 year old with terrible form.
Rudisha, a 6’03 Maasai warrior was clean. His dad was a 4 x 400m Olympic medalist, with basic training and raw talent.
Genes and talent! Coupled with excellent coaching, perfect temperament and drive.
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