ACC is now the top distance conference

deep eddy wrote:

PAC 12 was dominate for many years. But California’s HS depth has dropped off and universities are focusing on sprints now. The ACC is loaded with distance talent and distance minded head coaches. Look how deep the 1500 prelims were yesterday and the steeples were tonight.

No doubt! Overall distance dominance has moved from the west to the south!!!!

deep eddy wrote:

But California’s HS depth has dropped off ...

Huh??? Nico Young??? Newbury Park just had 4 kids (none of whom are seniors) run under 9:00 for 3200m, never happened in history. 2 of the ran 8:43.

jonesy22 wrote:

deep eddy wrote:

But California’s HS depth has dropped off ...

Huh??? Nico Young??? Newbury Park just had 4 kids (none of whom are seniors) run under 9:00 for 3200m, never happened in history. 2 of the ran 8:43.

Nico went to Northern Arizona, Yeah California has talent, but they used to keep the talent in California, now the top High School Distance runners go out of state, lets see where the Newbury Park kids go, 2 of them are Nico Youngs brothers so maybe they follow him to Northern Arizona, The top Californian Distance runners used to stay in state, Ralph Serna UCI, Jon Butler and Eric Reynolds and many more went to UCLA, UCLA was so good back then Steve Scott wanted to go to UCLA, but Coach Jim Bush told him he would never make the team, Steve Scott said can I walk on and workout with them and if I improve run in the meets? and Bush said no, so Steve Scott went to UCI. That is one awesome team if they wont let Steve Scott a 1:51 half miler walk on, Note Steve Scott eventually ran a faster 1500 and Mile then any kid on that team.

Oregon alone trumps the ACC

Ok but we must acknowledge that Oregon would not be any good and not have these high quality recruits without former ACC (VT) coach Ben Thomas now in his third season.

That's right, Oregon has never had any good runners until he showed up.

Oregon is great but the rest of the PAC-12 is yawn....

I heard Colorado was pretty good as well. Things tend to be a bit cyclical, but I would expect the PAC-12 to continue to be a force.

Maybe since we are defining regions, it should be the Mountains versus the South? NAU, BYU, Colorado, Boise State, New Mexico, Colorado State, even Air Force are all pretty good.

douglas burke wrote:

jonesy22 wrote:

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UCLA was so good back then Steve Scott wanted to go to UCLA, but Coach Jim Bush told him he would never make the team, Steve Scott said can I walk on and workout with them and if I improve run in the meets? and Bush said no, so Steve Scott went to UCI. That is one awesome team if they wont let Steve Scott a 1:51 half miler walk on, Note Steve Scott eventually ran a faster 1500 and Mile then any kid on that team.

Except Scott never ran 1:51 in HS.

I think Scott ran 152 and change in high school. I could see no scholarship to UCLA, but can't walk on? The only period where UCLA had a legit mid distance/distance program was under Bob Larsen. I'm sure Larsen, unlike Bush, would have allowed Scott to walk on.

It took 13:44 just to score in the men's 5k. 15 under 14.

I thought the 800s from the startlist was kinda mediocre but Kameron Jones ran 1:45 and Sam Voelz 1:46 as well