Lance Armstrong accused of riding a motorized bike in TDF win

Definitely not. Just good old fashioned doping.

He's literally scratching his butt

this is just a video compilation of Lance scratching his butt

well done, OP. you got me

It was a nervous tick that he would always do. The commentators would mention it. Nor did I see any evidence of mechanical doping.

The explanation is the simplest: he was doped to the gills and that accounts for his performance. It is funny but you get claims of mechanical doping re Sky. EPO is all you need.

i dont doubt for a second that if lance could have used a motor he would have done.

i dont doubt for a second that he occasionally pulls on his lycra to adjust his sweaty crack clothes.

i dont doubt for a second that when they mount the switch for the motor they said; why mount it on the handlebar when you can reach back to the saddle?

I told y'all the Brits were dirty. Now we just need to get Farah give Rupp his gol, and Wightman, Kerr, and Grice banned so our boy Cole can have a clear run for a medal in Tokyo. I told y'all we shouldn't have saved their limey butts against ole Boney in 1815.

American Fake Tan wrote:

I told y'all the Brits were dirty. Now we just need to get Farah give Rupp his gol, and Wightman, Kerr, and Grice banned so our boy Cole can have a clear run for a medal in Tokyo. I told y'all we shouldn't have saved their limey butts against ole Boney in 1815.

Brilliant post. LA was a brit and hollywood has rewritten Waterloo? after learning that the yanks won the battle of britain, i thought nothing nothing surprised me. wots next? texans at 1066?

astro wrote:

Definitely not. Just good old fashioned doping.

During the "good old fashioned doping" of Armstrong's era there was an upper Hematocrit level of 50% - call it a blood doping speed limit so to speak. Riders were tested regularly and if you were over the limit (say 51%) you were parked for 2 weeks which essentially destroyed your chances of winning the Tour. Riders competing before the Hematocrit limit (pre-98) could boost as high as they wanted. Some riders, like 96 Tour winner Barnj Riis, jacked his Hct to around ~60% - hence the infamous nickname "Mr. 60%." Armstrong didn't have the benefit of boosting over 50%. Even if had a low baseline Hct as reported by some experts (low 40s), he's still increasing his Hct by only several points to keep it under 50.

His accelerations were too profound and dominating for supposedly blood doping under the 50 limit. He rode and dominating up the high mountains like the EPO monsters of the 90s. There was always something fishy about that as he made a mockery of the world's best climbers, who were also using EPO. So, I'm suspicious that he had a little motorized help in those 7 yrs of Tour domination he had. And Armstrong's mentality was to win at all costs - so I wouldn't put it past him..

This is very interesting from 1998:

Former runner turned bodybuilder?

Would that be Alan? He of the 79 VO2max, the same as Miguel Indurain?

Alan, you shoulda been a cyclist.

pupil3142 wrote:

i dont doubt for a second that if lance could have used a motor he would have done.

i dont doubt for a second that he occasionally pulls on his lycra to adjust his sweaty crack clothes.

i dont doubt for a second that when they mount the switch for the motor they said; why mount it on the handlebar when you can reach back to the saddle?

He didn't use a motor. He was the freakin motor.

Lance was a very very good cyclist wrote:

pupil3142 wrote:

i dont doubt for a second that if lance could have used a motor he would have done.

i dont doubt for a second that he occasionally pulls on his lycra to adjust his sweaty crack clothes.

i dont doubt for a second that when they mount the switch for the motor they said; why mount it on the handlebar when you can reach back to the saddle?

He didn't use a motor. He was the freakin motor.

I agree: He was the f motor.

All those folks that grouse about Armstrong using PEDs have no idea how prevalent their use is in races like the TDF.

Lance was a very very good cyclist wrote:

Former runner turned bodybuilder?

Would that be Alan? He of the 79 VO2max, the same as Miguel Indurain?

Alan, you shoulda been a cyclist.

Alan? Who's "Alan?" I'm not Alan. I've posted my story before on some previous posts. After playing 4 yrs of college football (wayyyyyyy back in the late 70s/early 80s), I did about 10 yrs of competitive bodybuilder & powerlifting winning a regional title in BB and some state titles in powerlifting. Due to some cardiovascular issues, and on the advice of a cardiologist, I transitioned to running doing that for about for 25 yrs before injuries caught up with me including some tendon ruptures that curtained that endeavor. Now over the last 3 yrs, I'm back to masters BB with some light jogging a couple of times a week. So, I guess it's more accurately "former runner turned back to bobybuilding." Lol.

So, who's Alan? Another BB/running dude?

Alan posts as Runningart 2004. Yes he's a former runner turned bodybuilder.

He had his VO2 max measured at 79 which is ballpark figure for Tour de France winners. Of course there is more to it, but I think Alan had decent short distance power also.

I trained and raced with Pro cyclists, but my numbers were lower, so I understand what it takes to be as good as the top guys. There is no drug that can do this.

Did you try doping like them?

Lance was a very very good cyclist wrote:

There is no drug that can do this.

On, but there are, including an oldie that's still essentially impossible to detect.

Thomas Cruz wrote:

Lance was a very very good cyclist wrote:

Alan posts as Runningart 2004. Yes he's a former runner turned bodybuilder.

He had his VO2 max measured at 79 which is ballpark figure for Tour de France winners. Of course there is more to it, but I think Alan had decent short distance power also.

I trained and raced with Pro cyclists, but my numbers were lower, so I understand what it takes to be as good as the top guys. There is no drug that can do this.

Did you try doping like them?

No, neither did my friends. And one of them asked me why would he need EPO when his lung capacity was 7.5 liters at just 69 kilos? He had a point. And a future career as a Pro and a very sucessful one.

I really thought he could win the Tour de France, but he didn't want to race in Europe. It probably kept him sane.

Grassrunner wrote:

This is interesting. Could it be true?

https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports/2021/04/11/60733fc022601d8e798b45e3.html

Its not about the bike...

snarkatinesid1 wrote:

Its not about the bike...

Or the dope. It's about natural ability.

Lance was a very very good cyclist wrote:

snarkatinesid1 wrote:

Its not about the bike...

Or the dope. It's about natural ability.

This is true. Lance was one of the best cyclists without doping. With epo, testosterone, and blood bags mid race we was unstoppable. While other teams were doping, postal had the most sophisticated program by far.