That is because you had little talent.
That is because you had little talent.
You don't have to troll. I ran 9:01-4:11-1:54 in HS. I understand I'm not the most talented person considering I had to run 65 mpw to do it but I still think it requires a good level of talent to run those times no matter who you are.
A buddy of mine ran a 36-mid 10K when we were in eighth grade. That's not the best time every known, but it absolutely killed what I was running, and I was running six miles a day in middle school.
Didn't last though. By the time we were juniors in HS I was running high-34 when I ran them, and he was running mid-36.
You started this thread about a fake runner. You don't like that we have told you that elite runners can hit those times on very little training.
Runner62783848 wrote:
You don't have to troll. I ran 9:01-4:11-1:54 in HS. I understand I'm not the most talented person considering I had to run 65 mpw to do it but I still think it requires a good level of talent to run those times no matter who you are.
Agreed. You are definitely in the top 1% as far as talent goes.
With that, the whole question boils down to what one considers to be extremely talented. Is it top 1%? Top 0.01%? Top 0.0001%? etc. Rally just a matter of opinion and semantics.
Not gonna name names or give specifics, because this is a true story and I’m not interested in being doxxed. But I know of a freshman runner who ran 4:50s in gym class on nothing more than soccer practice (and our soccer team was terrible, they did absolutely no conditioning). Ran under 4:30 indoors on a flat track as a freshman on maybe 30 mpw max. Did baseball instead of outdoor track. Didn’t run competitively again. Without a doubt the most talented runner I have ever seen. I am sure he could have run 4:15 outdoors that year, and would likely have broken 4:00 in high school, maybe even as a junior. After that luck plays as much of a role as talent but I truly believe he could’ve been an all-time great, maybe the best ever. Never seen anything like it before, and probably never will again.
Runner62783848 wrote:
I said most talented. Not fastest. I think there's a lot of talented runners who get beat by less talented runners for a variety of reasons such as, training, motivation, environment ect.
As far as why I won't mention his name I'm not sure how'd he'd feel about me posting about him on Letsrun. He probably wouldn't mine but I'm no longer in contact with him and don't want to take the chance of invading his privacy.
I want to like what you say, but your insistence on writing ect instead of etc is a real deal breaker for me.
That is the giveaway that he is a high-school guy making up a story. There is no guy with those PRs. It has already been invalidated.
Not a distance runner, but 400 IH Edwin Moses basically went from being a D3 basketball player to Olympic Champion and world record holder in maybe 5-6 months. He started at such a high level that he "only" improved around .6 of a second from the Montreal Olympics until the end of his career around 12 years later.
- 3:58.3 State meet win, first and only sub 4:00 in all hs competition
Verzbicas???
This is pretty impressive and fast but not unheard of especially for a strong athlete who has been active in other sports. A lot of great athletes who could be strong runners don't gravitate towards track especially in states like Texas where football is king. Go to any big school and there's gonna be football players who could have easily qualified for the state meet in the 100M if they had joined the track team or soccer players who make great middle to long distance runners. I as the best distance runner in my high school but we had athletes from others sports that beat me in our town's local 10K most years. Many sports like soccer, wrestling, and football incorporate running into their practices along with strength training.
My high school had an athlete who joined the wrestling team when he was cut from the JV basketball team as a sophomore. He ended up being being a state finalist in wrestling his junior and senior years also won the state triple jump title his senior year in addition to being a football All-American in college (DIII).
As also pointed out when one is in high school and already in good shape it doesn't take as long to get to peak form, the body is more resilient and training is easier.
who is this? i know the guy you're talking about is Marshall Brooker
I have a fun story for you. My freshman year of college at the NCAA Division III level, there was a senior named Mason. For some background info, Mason played soccer all through high school, and never ran XC or track ever. He didn't improve nearly as much as your guy but he was very solid and had some crazy improvement for how late he started.
When he got to college, he played soccer as a freshman but he joined the track team in the Winter and Spring mainly because he had a lot of friends on the team.
In indoor his freshman year, he clocked a 4:41 mile and a 2:05 800. In outdoor he worked down to a 2:01 800 and a 4:17 1500. Nothing crazy, but pretty solid for a beginner.
Sophomore year he did soccer and still wasn't doing anything crazy in terms of distance running, but in indoor he clocked a 2:01 800, a 4:26 mile, and an 8:49 3k, finishing all-conference in both the mile and 3k. In outdoor he clocked a 1:57 800, a 4:00 1500, and a 15:06 5k, and he won the 1500 and 5k at the conference championships.
Junior year he quit soccer and did XC, clocking a 25:21 8k and finishing 119th at nationals. Indoor track he ran a 4:17 mile and an 8:40 3k, finished all conference in the mile and won the DMR. Outdoor track he ran a 3:59 1500 (tactical) and a school record 5k of 14:24. Won the 1500/5k double at conference again and finished 5th at outdoor nationals in the 5k.
Senior year he ran 24:5x in the XC 8k and finished 36th at DIII nationals. Indoor he ran kinda crappy, but he won the mile at conference, got second in the 3k and won the DMR again. Outdoor he dropped his 1500 to 3:55 and tied his school record in the 5k, but didn't really have any more notable achievements. Went out on a bit of a low note.
Last say I'll have in terms of if this guy is real or not.
Yes. He is real. All those times are accurate. His FL placements are tweaked so you don't find out who he is or who I am. I'm a pretty private person and don't want to put myself out there on the Letsrun boards. Why would I make up this story? I genuinely want to see if there's been other talents like him, because I'm sure there have been. I was just so taken aback with how quickly he improved and was curious if there have been other kids like this. I want this thread to be about that and not people trying to do detective work to learn my teammates and myself's identity.
As far as proven to be false. You can't prove it to be false because you don't know when specifically he was in high school or where he went. The FL placements I tweaked a little because I get you could just go back a few years and see who placed 30th then took 5th. Nowadays all times are on either MileSplit or Athletic.net. He went to high school before all times were posted there. So his times are difficult to find. They would be found on meet pages or our state meet results. You can't just google on athletic.net who ran 4:05 and find out who he is.
If you don't want to believe it fine. It's not that deep. It's just a casual thread.
*Also the ect comment had be lol. I type fast. I know its etc. If that makes me a high school kid then alright.
It is clear that you are a current high schooler who is ignorant about history. Do you have any clue about how many years we went with nobody running sub 8:50? Do you know how many states run a 3 mile? It was quite easy to verify that your guy does not exist.
I knew a kid who showed up freshmen year and ran 4:09/8:58. That is real talent.
Runner62783848 wrote:
Last say I'll have in terms of if this guy is real or not.
Yes. He is real. All those times are accurate. His FL placements are tweaked so you don't find out who he is or who I am. I'm a pretty private person and don't want to put myself out there on the Letsrun boards. Why would I make up this story? I genuinely want to see if there's been other talents like him, because I'm sure there have been. I was just so taken aback with how quickly he improved and was curious if there have been other kids like this. I want this thread to be about that and not people trying to do detective work to learn my teammates and myself's identity.
*Also the ect comment had be lol. I type fast. I know its etc. If that makes me a high school kid then alright.
Meanwhile you do exactly that by posting seven times in the thread you started about you and your fictional teammate
I was gonna say Haile Gebreselase but now I thinks it's your former team mate.
Runner62783848 wrote:
He even ran a 51 for the open 400m.
Sr year
49.9 (Open 4)
Not sure about GOAT, but as good as Athing Mu.
At least this one is real. OP is not.