Official LRC President Joseph R Biden Thread

Real Obvi wrote:

runnerboy70 wrote:

Trump is a multi-millionaire and once president of the most powerful country on Earth, I would guess (maybe) that he's more successful than you.

Being a multi-millionaire when you start off with $400 million (several billion in today's dollars) does not seem too difficult.

As far as once being a POTUS, he had a whole lot of dumb-fvck marks like you to count on. So, you should probably give credit where it is due - to the dumb fvcks of this country. Take a bow!

They did take their bows. This was their curtain call:

The GOP wants the nation run by a man with absolutely zero concern for human life.

I hope the Lincoln project and others will hammer this into the heads of white suburban women.

https://twitter.com/shearm/status/1466040543474073601?s=21

Fat hurts wrote:

runnerboy70 wrote:

Trump is a multi-millionaire and once president of the most powerful country on Earth, I would guess (maybe) that he's more successful than you.

He is also the most unhappy person I have ever seen. I wouldn't want his kind of success.

Cultist, you better be REAL careful about calling Dear Leader a multi-MILLION-aire !!! Holy cow. Know the object of your affection a hell of a lot better than that.

We'll go ahead and assume that your DA committed a simple typo.

Fat hurts wrote:

Ha mbo wrote:

https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2021/12/918/516/Political-Cartoon-12.1.21-Mixed-messages.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

This is actually a good point. There is plenty of debate as to whether travel bans work or not.

Not really. Pre-COVID, Trump banned some Muslims because it would make his Neanderthals happy. Whoever he banned during COVID (just Chinese? I don't recall), he surely did for no other than similar reasons. Certainly nothing to do with public health.

Biden, being kind of an adult and reasonably moral human being, is not appealing to a base that dislikes South Africans or, generally, speaking black people.

Apple and orange.

agip wrote:

The GOP wants the nation run by a man with absolutely zero concern for human life.

I hope the Lincoln project and others will hammer this into the heads of white suburban women.

https://twitter.com/shearm/status/1466040543474073601?s=21

NOTHING else has worked, so......yeah, not optimistic.....at all.

And I'm not talking about the lower bar of not voting for Trump in the future. But rather the higher bar (that shouldn't really be higher) of not voting for Rs that will keep Trumpism alive.

nonequals wrote:

agip wrote:

The GOP wants the nation run by a man with absolutely zero concern for human life.

I hope the Lincoln project and others will hammer this into the heads of white suburban women.

https://twitter.com/shearm/status/1466040543474073601?s=21

NOTHING else has worked, so......yeah, not optimistic.....at all.

And I'm not talking about the lower bar of not voting for Trump in the future. But rather the higher bar (that shouldn't really be higher) of not voting for Rs that will keep Trumpism alive.

Well Trump did lose re-election - the first one-termer since 1992. That's not nothing. Something works to convince people not to vote for him.

Rare for presidents to lose reelection campaigns.

but I generally agree trump will be the next president, based on my view that WI MI MN will be red states here on out.

nonequals wrote:

agip wrote:

The GOP wants the nation run by a man with absolutely zero concern for human life.

I hope the Lincoln project and others will hammer this into the heads of white suburban women.

https://twitter.com/shearm/status/1466040543474073601?s=21

NOTHING else has worked, so......yeah, not optimistic.....at all.

And I'm not talking about the lower bar of not voting for Trump in the future. But rather the higher bar (that shouldn't really be higher) of not voting for Rs that will keep Trumpism alive.

A question for the non-morans on this thread: After Trump:

1) Without his inspiration and unique badness, Rs return (fast or slow) to SOMEWHAT more ethical/legal/professional behavior?

Or,

2) They've seen what they can get away with, and carry on full speed ahead with Trumpism?

Sure, MAYBE none of them will be quite as bad as Trump, but.....is that much consolation when they behave similarly AND stay in office when they weren't elected? The R party will tolerate benevolent (OR malevolent) autocrats ? (and the rest of us will have no choice to, as well?)

nonequals wrote:

nonequals wrote:

NOTHING else has worked, so......yeah, not optimistic.....at all.

And I'm not talking about the lower bar of not voting for Trump in the future. But rather the higher bar (that shouldn't really be higher) of not voting for Rs that will keep Trumpism alive.

A question for the non-morans on this thread: After Trump:

1) Without his inspiration and unique badness, Rs return (fast or slow) to SOMEWHAT more ethical/legal/professional behavior?

Or,

2) They've seen what they can get away with, and carry on full speed ahead with Trumpism?

Sure, MAYBE none of them will be quite as bad as Trump, but.....is that much consolation when they behave similarly AND stay in office when they weren't elected? The R party will tolerate benevolent (OR malevolent) autocrats ? (and the rest of us will have no choice to, as well?)

some mix of the two obviously, depending on who the R nominee for president is in 2028 and after.

parties are guided by individuals and a talented politician can guide them.

Unfortunately right now there is no nationally known R who is within the bounds of normal democracy.

So probably the party will be led by the nutcases for a while since they win primaries.

The interesting moment will be when trump dies. Probably we're 15 years away from that, but that might be when the Rs get a grip.

agip wrote:

nonequals wrote:

NOTHING else has worked, so......yeah, not optimistic.....at all.

And I'm not talking about the lower bar of not voting for Trump in the future. But rather the higher bar (that shouldn't really be higher) of not voting for Rs that will keep Trumpism alive.

Well Trump did lose re-election - the first one-termer since 1992. That's not nothing. Something works to convince people not to vote for him.

Rare for presidents to lose reelection campaigns.

but I generally agree trump will be the next president, based on my view that WI MI MN will be red states here on out.

this would stink:

Biden wins the popular vote of course

Trump wins MI WI MN

Biden wins NC (50/49 in 2020)

Biden gets that one rogue weird EC vote from NE

That's a tie and Trump wins in the house

agip wrote:

nonequals wrote:

NOTHING else has worked, so......yeah, not optimistic.....at all.

And I'm not talking about the lower bar of not voting for Trump in the future. But rather the higher bar (that shouldn't really be higher) of not voting for Rs that will keep Trumpism alive.

Well Trump did lose re-election - the first one-termer since 1992. That's not nothing. Something works to convince people not to vote for him.

Rare for presidents to lose reelection campaigns.

but I generally agree trump will be the next president, based on my view that WI MI MN will be red states here on out.

Yes, an arguable overstatement, and reminder that we DID dodge a bullet last year. But geez, so many other negatives were wrapped around it, most notably, 47% of voters wanted 4 more years of him. In a country worth being proud of, you shouldn't need the Lincoln Project to tell you that that was a bad idea, and his behavior (or even a fraction of it) should have resulted in him being utterly crushed (assuming he made it that far, which he shouldn't have).

And, of course, he's still leader of the party. And the view that the Rs will regain the House has gotten nothing but stronger, and now we have the specific example of Virginia to suggest that that view is right on.

The Lincoln Project (and everyone else) has a LOT of work to do. And they'll probably fail. But lots of credit to all of those trying. They're the patriots, certainly not the Trumpers in their trucks.

I'm not nearly well-versed enough to have a strong opinion about it, but from the little I've heard, I suspect that the historian/political scientist consensus is that you DON'T readily put the anti-democratic/autocratic genie back in the bottle just because one person dies.

nonequals wrote:

agip wrote:

some mix of the two obviously, depending on who the R nominee for president is in 2028 and after.

parties are guided by individuals and a talented politician can guide them.

Unfortunately right now there is no nationally known R who is within the bounds of normal democracy.

So probably the party will be led by the nutcases for a while since they win primaries.

The interesting moment will be when trump dies. Probably we're 15 years away from that, but that might be when the Rs get a grip.

I'm not nearly well-versed enough to have a strong opinion about it, but from the little I've heard, I suspect that the historian/political scientist consensus is that you DON'T readily put the anti-democratic/autocratic genie back in the bottle just because one person dies.

it's hard...but personality cults like that around Trump generally don't last much past their founder.

but anti-democratic forces like the GOP do last.

So it's a tough one.

Speaking of personality cults. One more way Elon is like trump. 😂😂😂

“ Even so, it's gotten to the point that Musk's delayed timelines have become a joke in the Tesla community.

"Elon might say, 'Oh, yeah, we'll fix this, it'll be out next week,'" Self said. "And everyone says — 'Elon time two weeks, actual time two months."”

Trump: “we’ll get to it in two weeks. “ 😂😂😂😂

After thinking about it a little, I do feel sorry for the followers of the cult of Elon. I think Elon is taking advantage of easy manipulated people and those with low intelligence. Doesn’t mean I don’t think it’s funny, I do. 😂😂😂😂 but it’s also sad that they are being taken advantage of.

Has Biden ever told the truth?

Ha mbo wrote:

Speaking of personality cults. One more way Elon is like trump. 😂😂😂

“ Even so, it's gotten to the point that Musk's delayed timelines have become a joke in the Tesla community.

"Elon might say, 'Oh, yeah, we'll fix this, it'll be out next week,'" Self said. "And everyone says — 'Elon time two weeks, actual time two months."”

Trump: “we’ll get to it in two weeks. “ 😂😂😂😂

After thinking about it a little, I do feel sorry for the followers of the cult of Elon. I think Elon is taking advantage of easy manipulated people and those with low intelligence. Doesn’t mean I don’t think it’s funny, I do. 😂😂😂😂 but it’s also sad that they are being taken advantage of.

So you admit to being a member of a personality cult. Interesting.

Real Obvi wrote:

runnerboy70 wrote:

Trump is a multi-millionaire and once president of the most powerful country on Earth, I would guess (maybe) that he's more successful than you.

Being a multi-millionaire when you start off with $400 million (several billion in today's dollars) does not seem too difficult.

As far as once being a POTUS, he had a whole lot of dumb-fvck marks like you to count on. So, you should probably give credit where it is due - to the dumb fvcks of this country. Take a bow!

Actually, Trump is not a multi-millionaire. He is a multi-BILLIONAIRE.

nonequals wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

This is actually a good point. There is plenty of debate as to whether travel bans work or not.

Not really. Pre-COVID, Trump banned some Muslims because it would make his Neanderthals happy. Whoever he banned during COVID (just Chinese? I don't recall), he surely did for no other than similar reasons. Certainly nothing to do with public health.

Biden, being kind of an adult and reasonably moral human being, is not appealing to a base that dislikes South Africans or, generally, speaking black people.

Apple and orange.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Trump didn't ban Muslims. He banned people from those countries which are hotbeds of terrorists. If Trump actually had banned Muslims, why was Indonesia on the ban list because Indonesia has more Muslims than any other country??!