How the unrest in the U.S ends.

Also, and this will be harder for some of you to swallow, I think it’s way past time we implemented strict gun control policies. Anybody saying “abolish the police” sounds like a child who hasn’t thought that through one bit, but I would love to live in a world where some of these trigger-happy police-whackos making headlines were never even issued a gun.

If Trump were to be re-elected by a significant margin, there is the possibility that Republican leadership, at every level, would take that as a mandate to crush insurrection in the streets by any means necessary. I tend to think that a lot of people that just want to be left alone to get on with their lives have not yet weighed in. Eventually, we will here from them, one way or another.

It ends by WE THE PEOPLE UNITING!

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John Wesley Harding wrote:

Also, and this will be harder for some of you to swallow, I think it’s way past time we implemented strict gun control policies. Anybody saying “abolish the police” sounds like a child who hasn’t thought that through one bit, but I would love to live in a world where some of these trigger-happy police-whackos making headlines were never even issued a gun.

Please elucidate. What gun control policies would help with the situation we are discussing here? I'm sure that you are aware that the state of societal unrest we are experiencing has promoted record sales of guns and ammunition. The right to defense of self and family is fundamental, and the need to be prepared has been clearly emphasized by current events. So, what would you change?

UNITE wrote:

It ends by WE THE PEOPLE UNITING!

TEAMWORK MAKES THE DREAMWORK!

FREE HEALTHCARE FOR ALL!

FREE EDUCATION FOR ALL!

FREE FOOD FOR ALL!

FREE HOUSING FOR ALL!

FREEDOM!

PEACE!

LOVE!

UNITY!

RESPECT!

EMPATHY!

Amen, brother! In the spirit of unity, would you pay my mortgage note this month?

It will magically go away once Biden is elected. Until Biden is elected, Soros will continue to fund the insurrection and profit off of the discord it creates. People talk about Russian interference in the past election. What people don't talk about is the Hungarian manipulating the other side (yes I understand he became a US citizen in 1961 for tax purposes). He is a financial terrorist who has been banned from 6 countries.

cyborg wrote:

I see you failed civics. He is the president, not the Governor or mayor. All of the riots are in Democrat run cities. The feds can fix it without the Governor asking for assistance. They offer and are turned down. Republican run cities are much safer.

It's not because Republican leadership is magically stopping protests. It's because republican constituents where that leadership exists are ok with the status quo of killing and marginalizing people that look different.

There will be growing/changing pains to be sure. There is no easy solution to any of this. Does require people from all sides to sit down and LISTEN to one another. Some cannot be reasoned with to be sure, but middle round must be found and compromises must be made.

Question for Dems: Obama was in office for 8 years, why wasn't more done then to address racial inequalities?

Question for Reps: Trump is currently in charge. This is his country. This social unrest, no matter what you believe, is happening under his watch. Why shouldn't he shoulder the blame?

Asking the hardcores to put tribalism aside is probably asking the impossible. But let's look at this current Jacob Blake situation. Valid point on both sides:

Blake did not listen to the police officers instructions. He resisted arrest and fled. BUT, should nay of this result in a death sentence? If he was white, does he get shot in the same way?

Blake should have listened, if only for the sake of his 3 kids.

The officers should NOT have shot him. Letting him go is a FAR better option to shooting him, if only for the sake of the 3 kids.

Neither side is right. Fault lies in both places.

Two people who responded to my first post pointed out that the demonstrations are happening in places with Democratic mayors and/or governors. I'm not paying that much attention to keep count, but if that's the case and if Trump is re-elected by a big margin (unlikely in my opinion, I'd predict re-election but again with Democrats winning the popular vote.) But if Democratic mayors and governors are the reason we're having the demonstrations ,and again, I don't necessarily believe that's why, but let's say I'm wrong, why will Republican mayors and governors need to "crush" anything if the demonstrations are happening in Democratic cities and what good will it do if they try to?

I'll add that dealing with civil unrest by trying to crush it is not always successful. It didn't go well for the Shah of Iran, the Romanovs, the Borbons, Khadaffi, you can make a long list for either kind of outcome. But one thing about our current unrest that seems like a little discussed potential explanation is that you've got a country saddled with a president most voters did not want and who won with far fewer votes than his opponents.

That's a really good post.

Terrible Loss of Life wrote:

It ends by holding the media accountable, on both sides.

It ends by updating our laws to make sense in the Social Media age.

This is all being fueled by Mainstream Media and Social Media, all for profit.

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I wouldn't pay much mind to those people.

Their logic:

Ferguson riots under Obama = his fault

Riots under Trump = still the Democrats' fault

bfef wrote:

Terrible Loss of Life wrote:

It ends by holding the media accountable, on both sides.

It ends by updating our laws to make sense in the Social Media age.

This is all being fueled by Mainstream Media and Social Media, all for profit.

This

Lol. For all the people saying protestors need to have a specific platform of changes in mind, I think we should hold this accountable as well.

What laws do you think are necessary? Remember, always imagine your worst enemy in power before suggesting something that curtails individual rights.

It won't end until social media is abolished, which will never happen.

It will end whenever the pandemic ends, which will hopefully bring a decrease in unemployment. Then most of the protesters can go back to their jobs.

BLM!! wrote:

It will end whenever the pandemic ends, which will hopefully bring a decrease in unemployment. Then most of the protesters can go back to their jobs.

The hardcore protesters ARE doing their jobs: burning, looting and murdering. BLM has to put those billion$ to work!

Terrible Loss of Life wrote:

It ends by holding the media accountable, on both sides.

It ends by updating our laws to make sense in the Social Media age.

This is all being fueled by Mainstream Media and Social Media, all for profit.

A systematic system of aprensión of minorities by the police and justice system will stop with the media is held accountable and social media controlled?

Oppression

HRE wrote:

[quote]Not shocked anymore wrote:

There will be growing/changing pains to be sure. There is no easy solution to any of this. Does require people from all sides to sit down and LISTEN to one another. Some cannot be reasoned with to be sure, but middle round must be found and compromises must be made.

Question for Dems: Obama was in office for 8 years, why wasn't more done then to address racial inequalities?

Question for Reps: Trump is currently in charge. This is his country. This social unrest, no matter what you believe, is happening under his watch. Why shouldn't he shoulder the blame? s.

A very fair post. Obama didn't do enough - not on police reform or on community police relations in cities.

The current occupant isn't even pretending to care and is only interested in getting an angle in that could potentially play to his reelection advantage. He speaks of the current unrest as if it is happening under some other President and only he can fix it but people need to elect him so he can fix the problem. Well duh, you are already President - what have you been doing about it in 3 1/2 years?

Biden can't fix it, at least not overnight, but he won't foment the crisis by throwing gasoline on the fire with incendiary language.