How the unrest in the U.S ends.

It ends by holding the media accountable, on both sides.

It ends by updating our laws to make sense in the Social Media age.

This is all being fueled by Mainstream Media and Social Media, all for profit.

[quote]dsadasc wrote:

Rand Paul mobbed last night because he doesn't think like BLM.

Cops will continue to shoot people, and unfortunately, some will be African Americans This can't change overnight.

Cops will continue to kill over 1,000 Americans per year, black and white. The vast majority will not even be investigated -- only those caught on video.

dsadasc wrote:

Rand Paul mobbed last night because he doesn't think like BLM.

If Democrats win heavy in November elections, you can expect things like what happened to Rand Paul to happen constantly - criminal gangs of unemployed, media-emboldened BLMers harassing and threatening anyone who looks like they might be employed. Very like the "struggle sessions" of the Chinese Cultural Revolution in the 60s and 70s.

Anyone see the resemblance?

Democrats will say it will end if Biden is elected. That's laughable. Things started escalating during Obama and Biden's time in the White House, I can name off many incidents during that time, but one of the bigger rioting ones was Ferguson in 2014.

I'm not necessarily saying this all started escalating because of Obama and Biden, but they certainly weren't able to fix any of it so why would Biden be able to fix anything now?

I agree to the other poster saying stuff about the media and social media. We need to trust the process and wait until there's a conclusion. After that conclusion all information needs to be made public. If people are outraged by the outcome after all information is available, that is more understandable. But people freaking out because they see a video clip on facebook has become a big problem. And the media gets behind that frenzy and keeps the emotions going.

If Biden wins and the Democrats take the Senate, then the demonstrations will largely end in Late January/early February 2021. Being winter, any protests happening then will be smaller due to weather.

In the scenario above, expect a lot of police and criminal justice reform legislation to be fast tracked and passed. Amongst them, police shootings will require investigation by an independent outside agency (state police or state DOJ - no more local DA or internal affairs inquiries) and some will rise to federal levels under hate crimes laws. Also, expect a lot of "good ol' boys" cops to resign and turn in their badges either in protest or because they see the writing on the wall.

Portland Hobby Jogger wrote:

police shootings will require investigation by an independent outside agency (state police or state DOJ - no more local DA or internal affairs inquiries) and some will rise to federal levels under hate crimes laws.

We need to be doing this already. Way past time for this to be taking place.

Portland Hobby Jogger wrote:

Also, expect a lot of "good ol' boys" cops to resign and turn in their badges either in protest or because they see the writing on the wall.

I would also add that many cops may just think the job carries too much risk. At a certain point, the risk outweighs the reward and some may just decide they don't want to role the dice. It isn't just criminal cops who want to beat up and shoot people. You know?

*roll

dsadasc wrote:

Rand Paul mobbed last night because he doesn't think like BLM.

Cops will continue to shoot people, and unfortunately, some will be African Americans This can't change overnight.

So my question; how does this end? Democrats don't care about it. Repubs might be taking advantage of it, and therefore do not want it to end anytime soon.

How does this end??

I am starting to see some encouraging thing in the past 24 hrs about talk about actually pushing for change of specific legislature and laws that would help the situation. What has been lacking this whole time is a protest without a clear defined goal accomplishes nothing. You can talk to 10 protesters and get 10 different answers on what they want other than they're pissed off at the system. If they start setting specific policy changes that can make a difference then I think that could start things in a positive direction. These statements protestors are pushing like end police butality, or social inequality, or racism all sound wonderful. The problem is just saying you want to end them doesn't accomplish anything, we've been dealing with them for centuries, a defined plan is needed. I think I've seen some starts towards that direction which in the aftermath of the George Floyd killing it seemed like a lot angry lashing out without any clarity or direction.

But then again I turned on ESPN this morning and saw the "woke" tearing Bruce Arians a new one and trying to turn him into Drew Brees 2.0 for something that didn't fit in with their message. If we devolve back into this forced compliance message where you tell me exactly how it needs to be based on your perception of things and there is 0 room for discussion then things will roll backwards again. A lot of people across the country want to see change, but you can't alienate the people you need to work with in order to make that happen.

Create larger penalties for resisting arrest and disobeying commands from law enforcement.

If all law enforcement were required to wear body cams that would go along way in dealing with these cases and it would be amazing if all video and audio footage could be released immediately to prevent speculation on what actually happened.

Allow peaceful protesters, but crack down on curfews and violent protesters and end that non-sense asap.

Looks like recalls on Governors and Mayors may be a solution -

https://www.change.org/p/wisconsin-gop-recall-wi-governor-tony-evers/psf/promote_or_share?recruiter=

"Everyone beware! Because it is not going to stop!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th0--npG5bQ&t=0s

Sounds like a promise, not a mere prediction.

Synod wrote:

dsadasc wrote:

Rand Paul mobbed last night because he doesn't think like BLM.

If Democrats win heavy in November elections, you can expect things like what happened to Rand Paul to happen constantly - criminal gangs of unemployed, media-emboldened BLMers harassing and threatening anyone who looks like they might be employed. Very like the "struggle sessions" of the Chinese Cultural Revolution in the 60s and 70s.

Anyone see the resemblance?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Struggle_session

You do know that Trump is the president while these demonstrations are happening, right?

Portland Hobby Jogger wrote:

If Biden wins and the Democrats take the Senate, then the demonstrations will largely end in Late January/early February 2021..

You're naive. Anyone who thinks the rioting, looting and plundering will just magically disappear should take some time to read up on what happened and is happening in other countries around the world in recorded history. Once rioting and looting starts it will not stop until those in power stop allowing / promoting / indulging it. Think of it as three year olds throwing a temper tantrum, getting their way, and getting away with breaking their toys without consequences, and being rewarded for their behavior. Once that pathway is built it is very hard to stop the behavior.

There is a reason why there is a saying "history repeats itself" Do yourself a favor and educate yourself to see what lies ahead for the US.

YMMV wrote:

"Everyone beware! Because it is not going to stop!"

Sounds like a promise, not a mere prediction.

She seems happy and proud of these rioters! What a waste!

I see you failed civics. He is the president, not the Governor or mayor. All of the riots are in Democrat run cities. The feds can fix it without the Governor asking for assistance. They offer and are turned down. Republican run cities are much safer.

HRE wrote:

You do know that Trump is the president while these demonstrations are happening, right?

Yes, but he is not the Democrat Mayor in those cities that are committing career suicide by allowing that crap to continue.

HRE wrote:

Synod wrote:

If Democrats win heavy in November elections, you can expect things like what happened to Rand Paul to happen constantly - criminal gangs of unemployed, media-emboldened BLMers harassing and threatening anyone who looks like they might be employed. Very like the "struggle sessions" of the Chinese Cultural Revolution in the 60s and 70s.

Anyone see the resemblance?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Struggle_session

You do know that Trump is the president while these demonstrations are happening, right?

Yes, I do know that. In fact, that knowledge/fact is actually a premise in my prediction of what will happen if Democrats win heavy in November.

Are you predicting the opposite? Or just copying a nonsensical one-liner rhetorical question you've seen multiple times on this message board because you can't think of anything else to post?

cyborg wrote:

I see you failed civics. He is the president, not the Governor or mayor. All of the riots are in Democrat run cities. The feds can fix it without the Governor asking for assistance. They offer and are turned down. Republican run cities are much safer.

Actually I did quite well in civics. I'm responding to this idea Trump and his people are tossing out that somehow he's the presidential candidate we need to elect to end these sorts of things. That's crap. If having him as president is going to end these demonstrations they'd be done by now. To your point, that it's the fault of governors or mayors in the specific states and cities, let's take that as true for the moment. Many of them will still be governors or mayors next year so the same dynamic applies. Why do we think re-electing Trump will put and end to the protests then when it's not happened now? Actually, there was not much of this kind of stuff going on at all between the late '60s and Trump's election.

It will not end until there is a fundamental change in police culture. Currently, every police officer out there believes that they are just one false move away from getting shot or stabbed and it is better to use deadly force and come home alive than to get killed in the line of duty. The BLM protests have actually made this situation even worse as there have been a lot of incidents of people goading police into confrontations. My son's COVID playmate's dad is a cop. He had someone slam on their brakes in front of him and start yelling f the police at him. He just let them go because it was too soon after George Floyd and COVID was raging in our area. But all the cops think that they are going to get killed by a vigilante at any minute and are even more trigger happy than ever before. They are brown bagging it because they are afraid of getting shot waiting in line at a fast food drive through. Of course, this is not a rational fear, but neither is the fear that drove a police officer to put seven bullets into a man's back at close range because he reached into his vehicle while his little kids were sitting in the back seat.

You can strip qualified immunity, get independent prosecutors, defund police all day long, but until you change that police culture, you will still have a big problem.