Online coaching is the future wrote:
I think because Laterunnerphil is his disciple and always posts what Tinman would prescribe to any situation. That gets annoying after a while.
Also CV is just an excuse to run cruise intervals too fast.
If you’re running cruise intervals too fast are they really cruise intervals? ?
I remember listening to Alberto Salazar. Regardless of doping, he knows what he’s talking about and has experience of he highest level with his athletes.
He said something along the lines of you know when you’re gonna have a superman type race when you’ve been doing Superman type workouts. That amazing performances are usually indicated somehow by workouts that are BETTER than normal.
It seems to me like the TinMan are never doing Superman workouts. The ideology is to train year around and train at sub maximal levels but always have decent performance. This would make sense if they were road runners who are winning races for money year round, but they are not. Critical velocity seems like a very unspecific pace that serves as pseudo anaerobic threshold work.
Almost like a continual base phase and as they get closer to a race there is more race pace work. But why do they not just peak for races and have Superman workouts like many others are doing. The results prove it
Similarly, how is Drew Hunter going to ever develop the speed necessary to run the last lap of a championship 5k or 1500 in close to 50 seconds?
A: He won't. Tinman training won't develop that top-end closing speed necessary of a world-class runner. And Drew running workouts side by side with dudes who lack the credentials to even wipe his ass in every clip they post online doesn't give me confidence, either
I assume the goal is to make him able to hold a hard pace for a long time. Similar to Solinsky running the last mile of his 10,000m in sub 4. A grinding pace that he can maintain because he doesn't have the wicked closing speed
Obviously Solinsky was a great runner and ran an American Record in the 10k, but he never did anything of note in a world championship level race. Drew absolutely has the talent to be in the mix for a world championship or olympic medal, but training with Schwartz and trying to run like Solinsky isn't gonna get him there
Snowflake Elite wrote:
Iain wrote:
Question: why are LR message board posters obsessed with the Tinman Elite group?
A: because Tinman is a long time LRC poster and has made outrageous claims per his coaching ability.
That’s good to know (thank you).
Still, maybe let it go...
Runner10287 wrote:
aluminum man elite wrote:
The guys on TME really need to learn to stay off the boards. Them coming on here and trying to defend Schwartz and their team really isn't a great look or productive
Agreed. The Tinmen guys keep the ball rolling, so to speak, with the trolls by constantly taking the bait and coming here to defend his honor.
I’m loving the hubris.
I hate to break it to you but no-one from TME is posting here, because they have better things to do with their time.
Iain wrote:
Runner10287 wrote:
Agreed. The Tinmen guys keep the ball rolling, so to speak, with the trolls by constantly taking the bait and coming here to defend his honor.
I’m loving the hubris.
I hate to break it to you but no-one from TME is posting here, because they have better things to do with their time.
Like what?
Like argue with Robert Brandt on Strava? If they do that, clearly they would never stoop to the level of responding on a LR thread about them
Tinman Cometh wrote:
Cameron Griffiths - Arkansas by way of OZ
I think you mean, "AUS", which is pronounced "OZ"
Part of the problem with Tinmen's rep around here is LateRunnerPhil, who constantly comes on every thread to talk about Tinman. He might be the worst PR person they can possibly have, since he says he trains Tinman style yet is constantly hurt or training poorly. Would serve them well to start posting on the boards to drown out his nonsense or tell him to start hyping up a different training regimen.
seriously????? wrote:
Part of the problem with Tinmen's rep around here is LateRunnerPhil, who constantly comes on every thread to talk about Tinman. He might be the worst PR person they can possibly have, since he says he trains Tinman style yet is constantly hurt or training poorly. Would serve them well to start posting on the boards to drown out his nonsense or tell him to start hyping up a different training regimen.
+1
LateRunnerPhil is profoundly unaware of the depth of his ignorance.