3 New Tinmen Today

3 more guys who can just about qualify for the Trials, but will probably fall short of an IAAF standard.

The questions remains, do any of these people receive support from adidas or the group? How do they all pay rent, food, travel, etc?

Tinman Cometh wrote:

Cameron Griffiths - Arkansas by way of OZ

Jamaine Coleman- EKU by way of England

Brogan Austin, US Marathon Champ 2019, Drake Alum

What do we make of the new additions?

Three more guys who will make zero impact on the world stage.

too far quest wrote:

3 more guys who can just about qualify for the Trials, but will probably fall short of an IAAF standard.

The questions remains, do any of these people receive support from adidas or the group? How do they all pay rent, food, travel, etc?

I actually think THEY pay Tinman. Wasn't Hudson's gang the same way, you pay to be in it?

More bodies in the collab videos. Yay!

Griffith is pretty good. 3:39, 7:49. Seems more like a mid distance guy which is good for him because Australia’s 5k team is pretty deep.

Coleman is a steepler with a 8:30 PR. Pretty good actually but doesn’t seem to really run many other events. 13:50 for 5k.

Austin Brogan is a 2:12 marathoner. Not really sure how long he’s been doing the thon but he has a 1:02 HM. That won’t get you anywhere close to a Olympic spot though

Pretty interesting move to get two foreigners on the team. Cameron Griffith is definitely pretty good but Australia 1500 has McSweyn, Mathews, Ramsden, Hoare. Great Britain has pretty much 0 presence in the steeple so I suppose Coleman could get a spot on their team I guess

too far quest wrote:

3 more guys who can just about qualify for the Trials, but will probably fall short of an IAAF standard.

The questions remains, do any of these people receive support from adidas or the group? How do they all pay rent, food, travel, etc?

It’s my understanding that adidas has some sort of deal with the group where everyone at least gets gear. I think hunter, parsons, gusman, and now fischer all have some sort of money deal on top of that. The rest of the guys have real jobs.

cheesewiz wrote:

Griffith is pretty good. 3:39, 7:49. Seems more like a mid distance guy which is good for him because Australia’s 5k team is pretty deep.

Coleman is a steepler with a 8:30 PR. Pretty good actually but doesn’t seem to really run many other events. 13:50 for 5k.

Austin Brogan is a 2:12 marathoner. Not really sure how long he’s been doing the thon but he has a 1:02 HM. That won’t get you anywhere close to a Olympic spot though

Pretty interesting move to get two foreigners on the team. Cameron Griffith is definitely pretty good but Australia 1500 has McSweyn, Mathews, Ramsden, Hoare. Great Britain has pretty much 0 presence in the steeple so I suppose Coleman could get a spot on their team I guess

Yeah but Brogan Austin’s 2:12 is from CIM.

Ohh! Poor fellows!

seriously????? wrote:

Tinman Cometh wrote:

Cameron Griffiths - Arkansas by way of OZ

Jamaine Coleman- EKU by way of England

Brogan Austin, US Marathon Champ 2019, Drake Alum

What do we make of the new additions?

Three more guys who will make zero impact on the world stage.

Yeah, anybody who isn't going to win the Olympics should just quit the sport, no room for anybody else.

Tinman Elite is funny as hell. When Brogan won CIM 2 years ago they bragged all over social media about how he was one of them, a part of the brotherhood. 2 years later they are welcoming him to the team.

seriously????? wrote:

Tinman Cometh wrote:

Cameron Griffiths - Arkansas by way of OZ

Jamaine Coleman- EKU by way of England

Brogan Austin, US Marathon Champ 2019, Drake Alum

What do we make of the new additions?

Three more guys who will make zero impact on the world stage.

The whole concept of training and joining a group is to become a better runner. The thought process is that being at altitude, training with other elites and having a top-tier coach will improve the running performance.

Now Austin has been working with Tinman for years (HE was the one who coached him to the 62/2:12 US marathon champ he became famous for), but the other two seem to be quite new.

And even if they won't make Olympics or World's, at least Hunter got new training partners. It's a win-win situation really, and you never know if someone is going to respond super well to Tinman training and suddenly reach another level.

Jerry jersey wrote:

Tinman Elite is funny as hell. When Brogan won CIM 2 years ago they bragged all over social media about how he was one of them, a part of the brotherhood. 2 years later they are welcoming him to the team.

He was coached by Tinman and received a weekly plan with feedback. That does not mean he was part of the elite team living in Boulder. He had a job, lived somewhere else, and trained by himself.

Or are Aidan Puffer, the Ping's, Judson Greer, etc. all who are coached by Tinman right now also already part of the Tinman Elite? No, they are still running for their HS team.

Joining the TME, moving to Boulder, and going all-out/full-time with running was the logical next step for Austin.

This site is depressing. Anyone who attempts to become a better runner is crucified because they don’t have the “talent” to be a world champ. In the eyes of Letsrun everyone that isn’t 13:0x or 3:30s low should retire immediately apparently because there’s no hope of them becoming great. And if they do? Obviously doped.

You all suck.

LateRunnerPhil wrote:

seriously????? wrote:

Three more guys who will make zero impact on the world stage.

The whole concept of training and joining a group is to become a better runner. The thought process is that being at altitude, training with other elites and having a top-tier coach will improve the running performance.

Now Austin has been working with Tinman for years (HE was the one who coached him to the 62/2:12 US marathon champ he became famous for), but the other two seem to be quite new.

And even if they won't make Olympics or World's, at least Hunter got new training partners. It's a win-win situation really, and you never know if someone is going to respond super well to Tinman training and suddenly reach another level.

Top-tier coach!? Are you kidding us man?? He will remain a B- tier coach.

What happened to Brian Barrazza? Burnt out?

Sapel wrote:

What happened to Brian Barrazza? Burnt out?

just ran a 4:02 mile TT a few weeks back in Boulder.

As an older person, it’s hard to wrap my head around the social media side of the sport. And I can’t get through some of their stuff. But I’m not their audience. It’s easy to think “too much Instagram posting, not enough results”. But I do think we need to cut the tinman guys a break. They are working in the current business model and trying to make it in the sport. Most of us are not fast enough to be in the group. And they are trying to make the sport appealing to a younger audience.

I'm probably not the only one on here who emailed Tinman when I was overtrained in HS and got back some excellent, very timely, and free advice to relax and do my easy runs and workouts at slower relaxed appropriate paces. I improved a lot after hearing that. He is one of the most generous people in the sport and has helped hundreds improve directly, often without charging, and probably thousands indirectly. Whenever his group or the training gets criticized I always think of that when I wasn't hearing it from anybody else. Maybe don't criticize somebody who helps burnt out high-motivation high-schoolers from an anon account unless you regularly help those kinds of runners too?

Nah I agree wit it. Lots of people beef Tinman from LRP and his claiming. Whatever right. Stupid about it is every dirtbag and their grandma on this website would love to be in Tinman Elite's situation. Real talk forget Tinman training for real. They're living and training professionally in Boulder CO and just living it like they want to. That's tight if you ask me. They do too much though on social media but they gotta get their money up you feel. Ion even like Tinman training like that and none of the guys that good but still they bossed up livin it like we can say we are. HA! 99 percent of people out there would run for TME instead of not running at all and thats saying something at the end of the day you feel. everyone grillin them n giving crap and they been chillin