This is the MOST disturbing police brutality video I’ve ever seen!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just stop! Looters are never given a pass!! LEAs will get to those not caught during the act and to others thru video and other evidence.

Let’s be clear! There will ALWAYS be looters. After sports game championship wins turn violent, protests turn violent, natural disasters turn violent, etc. The looters ARE NEVER ideologically apart of the peaceful and/or concerned individuals. Looters are opportunistic criminals PERIOD! With all the examples I listed, looters only see an opportunity for self interest!!!

Yes. Once in cuffs and face down on the ground the officer could have put his knee on the suspects back if he felt he needed/wanted to pin the guy to the floor. The guy isn't going anywhere.

What actually happened was a slow agonizing death for the victim.

The US doesn't realise how behind it is in some areas. People still think it's the Wild West and 'outlaws' should be gunned down by the Sheriff in the street, rather than apprehended, taken to custody safely and face trial in court.

breit leit wrote:

Even if the middle part shows the deceased being violent and threatening the police officer still acted inappropriately.

He was already cuffed in the first clip where he leans and the sits down against the wall. I don't see how he could've caused enough of a ruckus while cuffed to require a knee to the neck for 6 minutes once he's back on the ground.

Like I was saying in the Trump thread, the US is a dead end. Ultimately it’s boring to be forced to deal with these issues rather than with dance, physics, literature, music, humor, climate, economics, pedagogy, farming, or the myriad of other things that are actually interesting in their own right, to various people.

Sure some people are interested in endless conflict, but they have forced all Americans to share their interest. It is as though Americans were all forced by a fabric guild to constantly pay attention to macramé.

So blatent it feels like a public execution.

Pretty sure this pig would've done this to any person, regardless of race. At any rate, F*** THE POLICE!!!

Dirty cops continue to abuse their authority with impunity.

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/05/27/fired-mpd-officer-chauvin-has-been-involved-in-use-of-force-situations-before/

Raggedman wrote:

breit leit wrote:

Even if the middle part shows the deceased being violent and threatening the police officer still acted inappropriately.

He was already cuffed in the first clip where he leans and the sits down against the wall. I don't see how he could've caused enough of a ruckus while cuffed to require a knee to the neck for 6 minutes once he's back on the ground.

That's exactly the point. In addition to the kneeling officer, there were 2 other officers sitting on his back. That's another 400 lbs on his body. Police wouldn't do that if he would pose no serious threat, it seems that despite being handcuffed, he was able to inflict serious damage on them. Headbutts, strong kicks, biting, etc. Dude was jacked and not a skinny, useless runner and he can cause serious damage, handcuffs or not. Imagine Kimbo Slice or Brock Lesnar in handcuffs, they could probably still knock out all 3 policemen as long as they were unarmed.

Cop Chauvin before this was Involved in 10 conduct complaints and 3 shootings.

https://nypost.com/2020/05/28/cop-in-george-floyds-death-was-the-subject-of-10-complaints/

Nonayme wrote:

Raggedman wrote:

He was already cuffed in the first clip where he leans and the sits down against the wall. I don't see how he could've caused enough of a ruckus while cuffed to require a knee to the neck for 6 minutes once he's back on the ground.

That's exactly the point. In addition to the kneeling officer, there were 2 other officers sitting on his back. That's another 400 lbs on his body. Police wouldn't do that if he would pose no serious threat, it seems that despite being handcuffed, he was able to inflict serious damage on them. Headbutts, strong kicks, biting, etc. Dude was jacked and not a skinny, useless runner and he can cause serious damage, handcuffs or not. Imagine Kimbo Slice or Brock Lesnar in handcuffs, they could probably still knock out all 3 policemen as long as they were unarmed.

"Even if the middle part shows the deceased being violent and threatening the police officer still acted inappropriately."

Riots happened in London over a police killing in 2011 if you want some idea of where this might be heading. Some of the pictures are strikingly similar and it paralyzed the city for a few days.

The sentences given were unusually severe. About 20% were minors.

What I'm saying is they'll probably be prosecuted but the cops involved with George Floyd probably won't and this just further feeds the sense of injustice leading to more riots in the future.

This is what it comes down to:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CAsYU2-AO-j/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Nonayme wrote:

Raggedman wrote:

He was already cuffed in the first clip where he leans and the sits down against the wall. I don't see how he could've caused enough of a ruckus while cuffed to require a knee to the neck for 6 minutes once he's back on the ground.

That's exactly the point. In addition to the kneeling officer, there were 2 other officers sitting on his back. That's another 400 lbs on his body. Police wouldn't do that if he would pose no serious threat, it seems that despite being handcuffed, he was able to inflict serious damage on them. Headbutts, strong kicks, biting, etc. Dude was jacked and not a skinny, useless runner and he can cause serious damage, handcuffs or not. Imagine Kimbo Slice or Brock Lesnar in handcuffs, they could probably still knock out all 3 policemen as long as they were unarmed.

Appears that they did. I don't see the guy with his knee on this mans neck struggling to keep his position. I don't see any large movements of his body.

If he had gotten aggressive in between those 2 clips, by the start of the second one he's been subdued and the pressure on the neck was no longer required.

appleswan wrote:

Riots happened in London over a police killing in 2011 if you want some idea of where this might be heading. Some of the pictures are strikingly similar and it paralyzed the city for a few days.

The sentences given were unusually severe. About 20% were minors.

What I'm saying is they'll probably be prosecuted but the cops involved with George Floyd probably won't and this just further feeds the sense of injustice leading to more riots in the future.

You are absolutely wrong on both counts. The Mayor practically ordered the county attorney to arrest the cops. At least one of them (probably all) is on the fast track to life in prison - even Sean Hannity decided he needed to be sacrificed. The cop's chances of any due process or fairness are zero. Which is apparently how people want it. Retaliation and all. Two wrongs make a right.

Those looters and rioters will not even be charged. About 5 years ago, Minneapolis was the safest city in America. It went downhill fast due to new leaders. Last summer, various arrest were FINALLY made after awful gang assaults had taken place all over the place. The arrests only happened when some videos leaked (use google to find them - they are disgusting) and went viral and Mayor Frey was forced to act. All of those arrested have since been either released or given very limited punishment. Various more liberal ideas on crime, and even what you can say about that, have been taken to absurd levels in Minneapolis. So, yeah, nothing is going to happen, and you can expect more riots and looting through the weekend. It's a free pass for that right now, and many people know it.

I love when people share their fantasy short stories.

breit leit wrote:

Even if the middle part shows the deceased being violent and threatening the police officer still acted inappropriately.

It genuinely looked to me like he was barely pushing on the guy. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm guessing the officer felt he needed physical restraint for some reason, that was it.

ex-runner wrote:

Yes. Once in cuffs and face down on the ground the officer could have put his knee on the suspects back if he felt he needed/wanted to pin the guy to the floor. The guy isn't going anywhere.

What actually happened was a slow agonizing death for the victim.

The US doesn't realise how behind it is in some areas. People still think it's the Wild West and 'outlaws' should be gunned down by the Sheriff in the street, rather than apprehended, taken to custody safely and face trial in court.

Well, he died 1-2 hours after the video, so that much at least you're wrong about. Unless you're talking about some agony he experienced all the way to his death at the hospital.

"The cop's chances of any due process or fairness are zero. Which is apparently how people want it. Retaliation and all. Two wrongs make a right."

Bullshit. They will receive a fair trial just like anyone else. The defense has more control of jury selection and will have a jury that will be receptive to legitimate evidence.

Poster #512 wrote:

breit leit wrote:

Even if the middle part shows the deceased being violent and threatening the police officer still acted inappropriately.

It genuinely looked to me like he was barely pushing on the guy. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm guessing the officer felt he needed physical restraint for some reason, that was it.

“I felt that I needed to act inappropriately “ does not excuse acting inappropriately.